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C17MooseDriver 03-05-2007 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by shanejj (Post 128700)
And if the CA get's a heart attack again....thank god for low time pilots who've had the training to fly the a/c...or would you rather not have ANY FO on board because they were all low time in your book?

I'd rather have a high time FO.

p1ayn 03-05-2007 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by bintynogin (Post 128497)
Just out of curiousity, how is Mesa's 500/100 different from Pinnacle's, Trans State, Express Jet (600/100), Comair, ASA. It doesnt make much sense to me that you want to send it to USA today... That's not news worthy at all..

News flash 1000/100 doesnt make you a pro... 500 of that 1000 or 1200 is sitting in the right seat BSing with you student pilot. You weren't flying... You were along from the ride. Dont bash low time pilots, some of them have better experience than guys with 1200/100...


You suck Ellen... You know I had pitty for everyone bashing on HMP a couple months ago, but now you... All the low time pilots are gonna be bashing you soon... You suck... "I suggest that this get forwarded to USA Today, along with all the other "Reduced" minimums hiring . . .i.e. 850 SKYW, 800 Eagle, 600 XJT, etc . . ." What kind of crazy Sh!t is that

You're right. They are all too low of times

p1ayn 03-05-2007 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by belliott (Post 128766)
Are y'all still jammering about the mins to get hired? Jeez... lets end this now... if you have less than ATP mins you shouldn't be flying an RJ... if you have less than 1000 hrs you shouldn't be flying a Turboprop.... if you have your comm/inst/me ticket you should be sitting right seat in a night cargo plane gleaning as much info and experience from the dude sitting in the left............ by the way could I get hired at Mesa with my comm/inst/me ticket?! Hahaahahahahaahaha Mesa can go to he11!

Belliot Im with you brotha.

Slice 03-05-2007 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 128808)
How many hours do Navy pilots have when they take their first carrier landing? It cant be much more than 200hrs. Wouldnt this dictate that the training is what makes you eligible to handle a jet a/c at lower flight time?

Tell you what...when the airlines make their selection and training programs as rigorous as the U.S. military, you'll get my endorsement for low time pilots flying Part 121. The current process doesn't even come close. Go out and pay some dues fellas.

Flyby1206 03-05-2007 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 128831)
Tell you what...when the airlines make their selection and training programs as rigorous as the U.S. military, you'll get my endorsement for low time pilots flying Part 121. The current process doesn't even come close. Go out and pay some dues fellas.

Right, I agree that military training is paramount, but I am not looking to strap on and be PIC of a fighter jet after only 50-100hrs total time. We are just trying to get people in the right seat of a regional/commuter at around 500hrs.

texaspilot76 03-05-2007 01:32 PM

I am tired of hearing people complain about how the new hiring minimums are too low. Everytime someone starts a new thread to inform everyone of new hiring minimums, all I read is how "I had 1200 hours when I got hired" or "someone with 500 hours doesn't belong in a jet". Please start your own thread to complain, because personally, I am tired of all the whining. The hiring minimums are what they are, and nothing can be done about it. So please allow the thread to progress in the manner it was intended.

Joeshmoe 03-05-2007 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 128842)
I am tired of hearing people complain about how the new hiring minimums are too low. Everytime someone starts a new thread to inform everyone of new hiring minimums, all I read is how "I had 1200 hours when I got hired" or "someone with 500 hours doesn't belong in a jet". Please start your own thread to complain, because personally, I am tired of all the whining. The hiring minimums are what they are, and nothing can be done about it. So please allow the thread to progress in the manner it was intended.

Amen brother.

de727ups 03-05-2007 01:54 PM

"Tell you what...when the airlines make their selection and training programs as rigorous as the U.S. military, you'll get my endorsement for low time pilots flying Part 121. The current process doesn't even come close. Go out and pay some dues fellas"

Agree with the above. The problem is the guys screaming the loudest ARE the low time guys themselves that see no point in paying dues or building experience before putting on the uniform. MAPD/FSA direct track/Jet U/Gulfstream don't come close to a million dollar military training program. Plus, the selection process for the military is a cut above just having a checking account.

C17MooseDriver 03-05-2007 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 128853)
The problem is the guys screaming the loudest ARE the low time guys themselves that see no point in paying dues or building experience before putting on the uniform. MAPD/FSA direct track/Jet U/Gulfstream don't come close to a million dollar military training program. Plus, the selection process for the military is a cut above just having a checking account.

I couldn't agree more!

AirWillie 03-05-2007 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 128831)
you'll get my endorsement for low time pilots flying Part 121. The current process doesn't even come close. Go out and pay some dues fellas.

Yea because being a 121 FO is very hard work. :rolleyes: This is coming from a military pilot, you must have really paid your dues flying an F16 congratulations...


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