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I know the bid for the Beech is the only thing that would advance my career. In all honesty, worst case scenario, Ill go FSS or ATC. Ive got 9 years from now to choose that road if I want to. Not too bad of a set up for starting pay with Lockheed at the helm...

Riddle then Mesa? Riddle doesnt guarentee the 121 job. Pace has the 90% hire rate, and as a Riddle Rat, whats not to love about me?

Hell, they just went down to 300-1 and Ive heard rumors of lower. One year left for me here. Maybe Ill be able to bypass Pace and go straight into the muck yall refer to it as...

Here is the deal, do you have a multi engine Commercial instrument rating? If not go, run to ATP and get your multi on the weekend. Walk, no run from here too away from San Juan, don't spend another dime.

Call Airmidwest Direct, PM me for the # and talk to the Director of Operations. You'll be in the next class, I am not kidding. Pheonix has just put it on ICT to find flight crews for themselves. This is because Mesa is so bogged down trying to replace vacancies.

SkiPatrol hit it on the head, go to the 1900 and learn to fly. You may know it all without flight instructing, trust me when I say you know nothing, but you will definately get an education flying the 1900!

Here is the worst case scenario, you'll figure out what a dump this place is in 6 months, in the mean time you've build 4-500 hours of multi turbine 121, you'll be able to go anywhere.

STOP blowing your money or whos ever money it is. (whos) ?:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 129992)

Grounded I like your posts but with contract neg's around the corner don't you think we are shooting ourselves in the foot, by recommending others for the job? I think the upper levels understand this that's why they are offering $500.00 for each recommended new hire. Once again they are banking on personal pilot greed. Course in the case of Outlaw I think you were just trying to help a brotha out.
Just a thought.

Everyone is kind of helping me out here, and I appreciate that. Ive still got another lap around the track with Riddle, so Im walking next year (with commercial multi instrument.) Another reason I look towards Mesa is because I know the people who have shot through that pipeline in no time. SG, I know the game might take a different form this time next year...btw I take it your with Airmidwest? How long if you dont mind me asking...As for what Ski said...if the insider is offered $500, Id probably call them up and ask for a 50/50 split...in all fairness, of course...

Before much longer everyone will be getting hired with less than 500 hours anyway. It really doesnt matter if one goes to an accelerated program or not.

SkyHigh

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Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 130164)

Before much longer everyone will be getting hired with less than 500 hours anyway. It really doesnt matter if one goes to an accelerated program or not.

SkyHigh

:D You know the funny thing is that there are people right now paying MAPD for a job when there are guys getting on with less than 500 at mesa and rumors of commercial/multi at other airlines. Can anybody say dumb dumb?

You would think at a point well above wet-commercial level insurance companies and training costs would set a cost-determined experience minimum. Seeing is believing. I just hope the lack of experience of regional new hires doesn't cost anyone's life. They still have full control of the airplane at times such as late final and when the CA goes to hockey.

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Originally Posted by Ski Patrol (Post 130006)

I see your point. I thought outlaw was out of Riddle and going pace sooner. I was just trying to help him out. The contract negotiations are liable to be a joke. This clown is gearing up to send 50 seat aircraft to china on a wet lease whether we agree to his terms or not.

My point to outlaw was too stop spending money. If you want to build multi time, come here get your time and get out! There is no getting out "the other side" as outlaw stated below and under no uncertain terms is there any "all fairness" to asking to split the $500. If you can afford to go to riddle or afford to blow money on PACE you can afford doing with out $250. Trust me the line pilot at mesa needs it more! You will someday too.

To answer your question I have been robbed by this company for just over a year now.

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Originally Posted by Outlaw2097 (Post 130124)

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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 130408)

under no uncertain terms is there any "all fairness" to asking to split the $500. If you can afford to go to riddle or afford to blow money on PACE you can afford doing with out $250. Trust me the line pilot at mesa needs it more! You will someday too.

No there is not - outlaw is a tool. Don't let this spoil your view of riddle people, we're not all like this guy. Asking someone who just got you a job for half their referral fee is a smack in the face. If someone asked me that question I would hit the delete button when they emailed their stuff to me.

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Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 130216)

Throughout aviation history there have been many more instances of experienced airline pilots having accidents due to complacency than accidents being blamed to inexperience. I honestly can't recall a single one.

1000 hours in a 172 doing touch and goes doesnt really add much to a pilots knowledge base to fly an airliner either. In the modern age of automated RJ's experience really isn't all that important anymore.

SkyHigh