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ACEssXfer 06-19-2017 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2381898)
I would also have to say not true to the people bidding reserve on purpose. I was a crew scheduler for a year and a half and I saw it all the time. A little more so with the captains, but I saw it in both seats. And I like the part 91 suggestion. I'll have to look into that. Here's another kicker.... I'm also looking for flight benefits. I was kind of considering DPJ, but I know they do 8 on and 6 off.

What kind of seniority did these people have and what regional did you work at?

TallFlyer 06-19-2017 04:56 PM

Best regional for least amount of overnights?
 
First off, don't predicate your future relationship on promises you can't keep. You can plan as best as possible, then the whole world will change and what you thought would be no longer is. You could find the perfect regional setup, only to get a job at mainline that requires more time away. How many millions of dollars over the course of your career is this going to cost you?

Second, some women aren't cut out to be pilot spouses. If she can't handle the day to day without you, or needs a constant stream of phone calls, texts, etc, well, that would stress me out. And could stress your crew out as well.

Lastly, if you're a Round 1 lineholder and live in base at PSA it is possible to limit your time away from home. PM if you want to talk about it.


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Whiskey4 06-19-2017 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2381718)
Hello all. Before you jump all over me based on the title of this thread, yes. I know pilots travel. I know overnights are inevitable. I know it happens. I accept that. Buuuut. I would like to limit it, if possible. My goal is to move to base and then bid either short call reserve or airport ready reserve. The girlfriend and I are discussing our future, and I definitely want to be home as much as possible with her and our future kids. Again, we both understand that overnights are a reality. We're just trying to get as much time at home as possible. Which airlines have the best reserve rules? What about reserve assignment, or requesting last out? Does your airline contractually have to use ready reserves as little as possible, and get them back to base as soon as possible? Thanks for the input and for not busting my chops too much!

If you live in an HQ base for a particular regional you could research opportunities for pilots offered by the company outside the cockpit. Ask about qualifications to be a recruiter, work at the training center, work in the safety department, etc.

minimwage4 06-19-2017 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Whiskey4 (Post 2381927)
If you live in an HQ base for a particular regional you could research opportunities for pilots offered by the company outside the cockpit. Ask about qualifications to be a recruiter, work at the training center, work in the safety department, etc.

Yes that's why we get into flying. Planning to fly a desk, or become a recruiter or work in the safety department. Those guys are lifers or plain don't like to fly.

SkyKing466 06-19-2017 07:12 PM

If you want nights at home you definitely don't want DPJ or companies like that... Not even sure why that would be on your radar but whatever. If you've scheduled for one regional they are pretty much all the same so you already know what you're up against.

Seriously, look into 91 jobs in a city you or your spouse have family if you want home time. That way you can be stay at home dad until there's a trip. With everyone going to the airlines there are decent gigs out there that fly 200-400 hours per year and have a lot of home time. You're on call every day but will probably only go to work a couple times a month. There's a corporate jobs fb page that's good or network where you wanna live. Look up people you trained with, etc. that are in corporate now and see what's out there, you might find something that works for you!

DiveAndDrive 06-19-2017 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by SkyKing466 (Post 2381976)
If you want nights at home you definitely don't want DPJ or companies like that... Not even sure why that would be on your radar but whatever. If you've scheduled for one regional they are pretty much all the same so you already know what you're up against.

Seriously, look into 91 jobs in a city you or your spouse have family if you want home time. That way you can be stay at home dad until there's a trip. With everyone going to the airlines there are decent gigs out there that fly 200-400 hours per year and have a lot of home time. You're on call every day but will probably only go to work a couple times a month. There's a corporate jobs fb page that's good or network where you wanna live. Look up people you trained with, etc. that are in corporate now and see what's out there, you might find something that works for you!

Thanks man. I have the experience from my regional as a scheduler. They had a "first out/last out" reserve protocol, and they also contractually had to use ready reserves as little as possible. They also had to get the ready reserves back to base ASAP. We were very streaky in reserve usage. We would have a month or two where a reserve would fly maybe once, and we'd have a month or two where the reserves would fly every day, and then some. I'm sure utilization at other regionals is/was similar, so I guess I was looking more for contractual language at the various regionals regarding reserve/ready usage. I'm definitely going to look into the 91 gig. Maybe I can get a deal making enough money (down the road) to just buy tickets and/or rack up airline miles. I don't care what I fly. I'll fly oil filters in a Cessna 152 for all I care. I'm just looking for quality of life, time at home, enough money to support the (future) family, and either travel benefits or the ability to buy tickets. I'll definitely start researching the part 91 operators and see what's out there. Thanks for the suggestion, man!

Utah 06-20-2017 11:07 AM

I hardly ever do overnight trips. Last time was two nights back in January. And I'm not senior in base. About 50%. OO/SLC.

Plenty of variety at our different domiciles.

falsecracks 06-22-2017 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive (Post 2381718)
Hello all. Before you jump all over me based on the title of this thread, yes. I know pilots travel. I know overnights are inevitable. I know it happens. I accept that. Buuuut. I would like to limit it, if possible. My goal is to move to base and then bid either short call reserve or airport ready reserve. The girlfriend and I are discussing our future, and I definitely want to be home as much as possible with her and our future kids. Again, we both understand that overnights are a reality. We're just trying to get as much time at home as possible. Which airlines have the best reserve rules? What about reserve assignment, or requesting last out? Does your airline contractually have to use ready reserves as little as possible, and get them back to base as soon as possible? Thanks for the input and for not busting my chops too much!

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Turbosina 06-22-2017 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 2382268)
I hardly ever do overnight trips. Last time was two nights back in January. And I'm not senior in base. About 50%. OO/SLC.

Plenty of variety at our different domiciles.

To be fair...50 percent in SLC means you've been here a long, long time. If you're a CA, you're probably approaching retirement age ;)

I bid in the top 20 percent in my base. I can't hold most locals as there aren't enough to hold and make up a full line, plus the guys above me get them all. So for the OP, realistically, this is a job in which you will be gone at minimum 10 nights per month. More, if you commute. It's just the way it is.

N541LC 06-22-2017 10:07 AM

I just left Horizon Air and was typically sleeping in my own bed over 20 nights a month. Most of the trips out of the Boise domicile were 2 day trips, in Anchorage it's pretty much all day trips. However, if you go to PDX or SEA you will fly the more traditional 3-4 day trips. As far as 121 flying goes only 7-8 nights away from home per month is pretty good in my opinion. Good luck on the job hunt.


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