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Qtip 03-10-2007 07:25 PM

Big Sky in St.Louis?
 
Just read on climbto350.com thay they will be in St.Louis next week to recruit. Anyone know whats going on? Their website have the same info and they are looking for pilots. I've got a friend there but he haven't heard anything except that they got some EAS routes down there and in TN. What airlines have domiciles in St.Louis? Scoop anyone?

Qtip 03-10-2007 07:29 PM

Oops. forgot the ads
 
Captains
Minimum qualifications:
1500 hours
ATP written test completed
Turbo-prop or jet experience
Preferred experience: ATP
2500 hours
BE-1900D Type Rating
Previous 135 or 121 experience
Must successfully complete pre-employment drug screen and background check On Wenesday the 14th and Thursday the 15th of March Big Sky Airlines’ representatives will be at the Comfort Inn Airport & Conference Center, 9600 Natural Bridge Road, St. Louis, MO 63134 (314)427-7600 to recruit Captains, First Officers and Dispatchers. Applicants will be able to meet recruiters from 9am to 5pm both days. What to bring: Pilots: An updated resume, logbooks, FAA certificates and ratings, passport, FCC license, social security card and a current medical. Dispatchers: Updated resume, photo/id/passport, dispatchers license, and a social security card.
Current Pilot Domiciles: Billings, MT Springfield, IL
Future Additional Pilot Domiciles: Boston, MA Cincinnati, OH


First Officers
Minimum qualifications:
750 hours with 50 hours multi-engine
Must successfully complete pre-employment drug screen and background check On Wenesday the 14th and Thursday the 15th of March Big Sky Airlines’ representatives will be at the Comfort Inn Airport & Conference Center, 9600 Natural Bridge Road, St. Louis, MO 63134 (314)427-7600 to recruit Captains, First Officers and Dispatchers. Applicants will be able to meet recruiters from 9am to 5pm both days. What to bring: Pilots: An updated resume, logbooks, FAA certificates and ratings, passport, FCC license, social security card and a current medical. Dispatchers: Updated resume, photo/id/passport, dispatchers license, and a social security card.
Current Pilot Domiciles: Billings, MT Springfield, IL
Future Additional Pilot Domiciles: Boston, MA Cincinnati, OH

kansas 03-10-2007 07:32 PM

Big Sky has been awarded three EAS cities for that area: Cape Girardeau, MO, Jackson, TN, and Owensboro, KY. Great Lakes has also been awarded three in that area: Burlington, IA, Fort Leonard Wood, MO, and Marion/Herrin, IL. Here's the FAA document awarding both carriers the cities:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf100/458711_web.pdf

Other airlines off the top of my head based in St. Louis:

American
Trans States
GoJet (I think)

WhiteH2O 03-10-2007 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtip (Post 131692)
First Officers
Minimum qualifications:
750 hours with 50 hours multi-engine


They are having troubles finding enough people to fill the spots that they have. If you are interested, apply. Even if you are below posted mins.

HPilot 03-10-2007 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 131704)
They are having troubles finding enough people to fill the spots that they have. If you are interested, apply. Even if you are below posted mins.

I've heard the same. They waved the multi requirement for someone with 1500 TT just a month ago.

XtremeF150 03-11-2007 01:42 AM

Well, everyone at Air Midwest seems to think that Big Sky has made an offer on our airline. I guess only time will tell, but many senior ppl are starting to jump ship. This makes one wonder if someone knows what this soon to be announced offer will be. :rolleyes:

groovinaviator 03-11-2007 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kansas (Post 131693)
...Great Lakes has also been awarded three in that area: Burlington, IA, Fort Leonard Wood, MO, and Marion/Herrin, IL.

Sweet... Maybe sometime you'll be taking me to my parents house.... Good ole' MWA.

Does this mean that Lake will get a STL base? What about Big Sky?

bintynogin 03-11-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kansas (Post 131693)
Big Sky has been awarded three EAS cities for that area: Cape Girardeau, MO, Jackson, TN, and Owensboro, KY. Great Lakes has also been awarded three in that area: Burlington, IA, Fort Leonard Wood, MO, and Marion/Herrin, IL. Here's the FAA document awarding both carriers the cities:

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf100/458711_web.pdf

Other airlines off the top of my head based in St. Louis:

American
Trans States
GoJet (I think)

CHQ is also big in the Lou

FlyerJosh 03-11-2007 08:18 AM

Big Sky is hiring for BOS crewmembers right now. They are opening a base in BOS to do Eagle flying in the 1900's. If the dispute over scope (aircraft size) with Mesaba pilots is resolved in Big Sky's favor, they will most likely look to add Saab 340s or DH8s to the fleet.

DMEarc 03-11-2007 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 131795)
Big Sky is hiring for BOS crewmembers right now. They are opening a base in BOS to do Eagle flying in the 1900's. If the dispute over scope (aircraft size) with Mesaba pilots is resolved in Big Sky's favor, they will most likely look to add Saab 340s or DH8s to the fleet.

WTF?

Shaun??

HPilot 03-11-2007 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 131743)
Well, everyone at Air Midwest seems to think that Big Sky has made an offer on our airline. I guess only time will tell, but many senior ppl are starting to jump ship. This makes one wonder if someone knows what this soon to be announced offer will be. :rolleyes:

I've heard of Midwest Airlines. Who's Air Midwest? Is that the commuter for Midwest?

starvin marvin 03-11-2007 11:04 AM

air midwest = mesa
midwest airlines comm. = skyway

and the BOS flying for big sky is under delta colors, not for eagle

HPilot 03-11-2007 11:30 AM

Thanks. I had never even heard of Big Sky until I started flying twins out there in the 90's.

DMEarc 03-11-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 131704)
They are having troubles finding enough people to fill the spots that they have. If you are interested, apply. Even if you are below posted mins.

Shaun and Kansas, how bad do they treat you guys?

What are your trips like? Home everynight?

WhiteH2O 03-11-2007 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 131797)
WTF?

As I understand it, these Boston routes are new routes. I don't think that Big Sky took them from anyone. Most of the cities are EAS routes and it looks like a few Canada cities will be picked up as well. That flying will be done for Delta (planes will be Delta colors).

There is talk about getting a bigger plane, but it is just talk at the moment. I have heard that DH8 is the first one on the list. They, believe it or not, they are including pay for even larger planes on the new contract. I think that the DH8 is possible, but won't happen for a while. I don't expect to see anything bigger than that for a looooong time, if ever.

Don't think that I am a Big Sky expert. I am not at all. I am just in ground school. I just call things as I see them.

From the schedules that I have seen for Boston, don't expect to be home when on duty.

Baronpilot 03-11-2007 01:13 PM

Will Big Sky be aquiring any additional routes for BOS other than the ones previously announced?

WhiteH2O 03-11-2007 01:26 PM

From the Big Sky website:

"More destinations from Boston will be announced soon. "

GAPILOT36 03-11-2007 01:26 PM

Shaun....if you dont mind me asking how is ground schoool? I have in interview thursday..any tips...fun place...and reserve? Thanks man! good luck to you and hope to see you there soon!

Baronpilot 03-11-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 131900)
From the Big Sky website:

"More destinations from Boston will be announced soon. "

With Colgan's 1900's going away soon, it might be some of those routes, but who knows?

FlyingGuide 03-11-2007 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 131704)
They are having troubles finding enough people to fill the spots that they have. If you are interested, apply. Even if you are below posted mins.

Myself and a few friends applied after a post on the UND site. Not a peep back and everyone met the 750 and 50ME.

Qtip 03-11-2007 04:53 PM

You're ****ed because you didn't get called for an interview? Geez. Wake up man! Do they owe you anything? I am gonna drive to STL and give it a shot, even if I don't meet their minimum requirement.

Baronpilot 03-11-2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtip (Post 131980)
You're ****ed because you didn't get called for an interview? Geez. Wake up man! Do they owe you anything? I am gonna drive to STL and give it a shot, even if I don't meet their minimum requirement.

I read on here that someone got on with 400/20.

mccube5 03-11-2007 05:00 PM

Well, had an interview scheduled for Friday the 16th then got a call a couple nights ago from Stig saying they were having the open house in St. Louis if that would be easier. Well, the fact that the open house won't have a sim i'd say it's the safer bet!

FlyingGuide 03-11-2007 05:06 PM

I am not saying they owe anyone anything. I am not ****ed. I love how people blow stuff up on this website.

Good luck on your interview Qtip.

WhiteH2O 03-11-2007 06:20 PM

I would say that if you applied and didn't get a response, apply again. That is what happened to me and they called me two days after I applied the second time.

There are some guys here with some really low time. I know of a really low time guy that was hired (about 400 hours) but he bought a 1900 type to get the interview. I have lower than their posted mins, but I knew two people that were in class at the time of my interview. Don't know if that helped a lot or not. Most of the FO new hires have more than the posted mins.

Ground school isn't bad. Big Sky is in a period of fast growth and it shows in a few different ways. IOE seems to be taking longer than expected for the class in front of me, partly because of a lack of planes and check airmen. The instruction is good, but it seems that the instructors are under a bit of pressure. They know that they will be teaching ground school nonstop for the next few months because one starts right when the other is over. The company seems good from what I know about it. There is a new contract in the mix and it looks like they will be more commuter friendly.

DMEarc 03-11-2007 06:25 PM

Do you guys to trips or are you like us at Colgan and no trips- home everynight?

FlyerJosh 03-11-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 131890)
As I understand it, these Boston routes are new routes. I don't think that Big Sky took them from anyone. Most of the cities are EAS routes and it looks like a few Canada cities will be picked up as well. That flying will be done for Delta (planes will be Delta colors).

There is talk about getting a bigger plane, but it is just talk at the moment. I have heard that DH8 is the first one on the list. They, believe it or not, they are including pay for even larger planes on the new contract. I think that the DH8 is possible, but won't happen for a while. I don't expect to see anything bigger than that for a looooong time, if ever.

Don't think that I am a Big Sky expert. I am not at all. I am just in ground school. I just call things as I see them.

From the schedules that I have seen for Boston, don't expect to be home when on duty.


Sorry about the mix up earlier in the thread. Knew it was one of the "connections" out of BOS.

As for bigger aircraft, the whole thing is tied up right now in the courts. Big Sky probably has no chance of seeing anything soon since even if MAIR decides to throw out the scope LOA, the Mesaba MEC would immediately apply for (and probably receive) an injunction. The court battle could take a year or more...

Of course if Big Sky is sold off, that would change the circumstances.

Qtip 03-12-2007 07:23 AM

Of course if Big Sky is sold off, that would change the circumstances.[/quote]


What if Mesaba is sold off? Mesaba is sold to NWA from what I read. That would void the scope one would think. I have heard that their new contract contains payrates for large cargo jets, large as in MD-11's, 747, A300, 767 etc. Someone must be optimistic that the scope will go away.

kansas 03-12-2007 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 131790)
Sweet... Maybe sometime you'll be taking me to my parents house.... Good ole' MWA.

Does this mean that Lake will get a STL base? What about Big Sky?

Yeah, get ready to take a ride on the good old Ghettoliner again! If you're on my plane, I'll make sure to sneak you a contraband fun size snickers bar. Lots of hiring going on right now at Lakes to gear up for opening an STL base...Personally, I won't believe anything until we fly the first turn. No clue on BigSky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 131880)
Shaun and Kansas, how bad do they treat you guys?

What are your trips like? Home everynight?

I don't know if you mean BigSky or Lakes. I work for Great Lakes. I've never felt directly slighted by management, but you've seen our payscales. That's by far the biggest ouch. Other than that, I love going to work, and enjoy the people and experiences I've had so far here. Trips are a mix of anything from day turns to 6-day trips (EMB only), with daily legs ranging from 2-10. No one is home every night.


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