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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
(Post 134450)
Do you guys have a passion for aviation at all? Doesn't sould like it to me.
It sounds like they do, if they are willing to work on their days off to make flying work out for them. I would say that is a passion. |
Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
(Post 134450)
Why would you want or need aside business? I'm going to be an airline pilot and I'm not going to work a second job or have a side career on my days off. I plan on using the downtime to concentrate on my family, my friends, and other interests - mentoring others. My life will revolve around family and flying the line for the next 20+ years.
Do you guys have a passion for aviation at all? Doesn't sould like it to me. You take the good with the bad and make your life work out....Thats what proactive people do...Reactive people blame management, the price of oil, weak unions, etc...They blame everything / everyone except themselves for their problems. I'm not perfect or even close but I know how to hold my head up high and am not worried / concerned that I'm going to be a poor, uneducated, under employed professional pilot. If its not working out its time to look at myself and change those things I have control over... -LAFF Good post LAFF. |
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Originally Posted by s10an
(Post 134354)
The way the industry is heading, you can be a highschool dropout at age 16-17, finish flighttraining age 18, instruct for 3 months get hired with a regional, age will hold back an early upgrade so wait for age requirement. Then make it a career in the regionals. Making 60-90K as a highschool dropout isnt bad....
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
(Post 134541)
If memory serves correct I thought that in order to be an ATP one needed to have a high school diploma as one of the FAA requirements. A drop out wouldn't do. SkyHigh
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
(Post 134541)
If memory serves correct I thought that in order to be an ATP one needed to have a high school diploma as one of the FAA requirements. A drop out wouldn't do.
SkyHigh |
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I guess my memory has failed me.
SkyHigh |
Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
(Post 134510)
It sounds like they do, if they are willing to work on their days off to make flying work out for them. I would say that is a passion.
I'm passionate about the military. I don't work a second job to make the AF work out for me. -LAFF |
Originally Posted by POPA
(Post 134302)
Two points, Sparky:
1) There's absolutely nothing wrong with a turboprop. I think maybe you ought to go see a doctor for that SJS you seem to have. 2) Nobody ever said it was a turboprop. The plane was described as a "turbine twin." 2. doesn't matter. my point is his buddy thinks he is the sh!t,, and his way of earning respect and power is by beating people down,, he will get his. There is always a bigger dog in town. |
Originally Posted by fosters
(Post 134303)
For most though, especially in this day and age of farming out flying, they will be stuck at that income level for life ($60k-$80k). Maybe a few corporate guys will be pushing $120k flying the big aircraft, but you are on call a lot of the time. Not a great way to live a life.
Instead SkyHigh has gone from poor regional pilot to almost-retired builder in a few years. I think his point (hopefully I am not putting words in his mouth) is that what if we, as pilots, took all that dedication and money and put it towards something else, like real estate. We could retire a few years out of college. And either you are skyhighs alter ego (different name) or you are making some big assumptions about his new career. And you would have to be a fool to say real estate is the way to go right now!!! If you talk to a real estate agent they would tell you to go be a pilot and not be a realestate agent because the competition is fierce, the market is saturated, and everyone and there dog can obtain a realestate license. So don't get to high and mighty with your thinking. This industry isn't for those who aren't willing to make the sacrifices they need to get what they want. Whether that be here at pinnacle, and yes There are SEVERAL captains here who are lifers. They make well into the 100k range by being in either the training department working mon-fri, 8-5, or the line captain who has put in the time and now enjoys 16-18 days off a month, and spends more time with is family than a guy working 9-5. Or you can go to the majors (my brothers are at southwest 6 year and 4 year f.o.'s making over 130k a year. 16 day min off and enjoying life.) And dont say that is for the few and the lucky. My first brother didn't know anyone before he went there. He just went in like everyone else. And something else i will add is that here at pinnacle we have been losing around 25 captains a month. And when they all say good bye on the message board they aren't saying they are leaving the industry. they are saying i am going to fedex, ups, southwest, delta, orion, etc etc.... sorry to say your doomsday sh!t wont work on me. I see the green grass (especially when i go visit my brothers) and know there is light at the end of the tunnel, as long as i dont wuss out and go home crying becuase it was tough for a bit. |
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
(Post 134570)
I took the liberty of highlighting some of the stupidest things i have ever heard. Most pilots will not be "stuck in 60-80 range". that is just ignorant. I have 2 brothers, and a handfull of friends who have proved that other wise. and thats just people i know. I also know 3 guys who fly corporate, are not on call a lot of the time (scheduled out several weeks in advance), and bring in well over 180000. they happen to think it is a great way to live life. (especially when the boss goes to the bahamas and he gets to take his family too.) by the way, starting f.o. there is 80000.
And either you are skyhighs alter ego (different name) or you are making some big assumptions about his new career. And you would have to be a fool to say real estate is the way to go right now!!! If you talk to a real estate agent they would tell you to go be a pilot and not be a realestate agent because the competition is fierce, the market is saturated, and everyone and there dog can obtain a realestate license. So don't get to high and mighty with your thinking. This industry isn't for those who aren't willing to make the sacrifices they need to get what they want. Whether that be here at pinnacle, and yes There are SEVERAL captains here who are lifers. They make well into the 100k range by being in either the training department working mon-fri, 8-5, or the line captain who has put in the time and now enjoys 16-18 days off a month, and spends more time with is family than a guy working 9-5. Or you can go to the majors (my brothers are at southwest 6 year and 4 year f.o.'s making over 130k a year. 16 day min off and enjoying life.) And dont say that is for the few and the lucky. My first brother didn't know anyone before he went there. He just went in like everyone else. And something else i will add is that here at pinnacle we have been losing around 25 captains a month. And when they all say good bye on the message board they aren't saying they are leaving the industry. they are saying i am going to fedex, ups, southwest, delta, orion, etc etc.... sorry to say your doomsday sh!t wont work on me. I see the green grass (especially when i go visit my brothers) and know there is light at the end of the tunnel, as long as i dont wuss out and go home crying becuase it was tough for a bit. SkyHigh |
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