Originally Posted by Lahey (Post 3157271)

I’ve got friends at UA, AA, DL, UPS, FDX. Yes, I know a lot more at AA than the others but I’ve networked beyond that. I think it’s safe to say most WO pilots know more than just AA pilots.

Flow is great until it’s not. I think it’s important to note a lot of folks got out before the flow to other carriers. Be like those folks, volunteer, continue education, get in the training department, and push to get a new job before the flow, because that flow date can disappear overnight.

Originally Posted by Lahey (Post 3157274)

I will add I could see pilots being in the position of only knowing AA pilots if they upgraded quickly and didn’t fly with many captains. You still have the opportunity to network outside of AA, it just takes effort.

Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3157278)

I'm not saying no ones goes elsewhere. I'm saying fewer. Far fewer. And that means less internal recs elsewhere. I was taking issue with the notion your chances are the same as someone from a non-WO, not that you can't. I see replies saying "you can still do it"... well yeah, but that doesn't dispute what I'm saying either.

Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3157289)

The reason there’s so many at AA is because... there’s a flow. That’s the point.

Also I’m at a WO and I know several people at DL and FX and UA. I may not fly with them, but that’s because they left. Networking isn’t just flying with people who are about to move on. There’s a heck of a lot more you can do, just not everyone wants to put forth the effort.

Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3156929)

Just so anyone looking at a career in 121 can see how volatile it is, not just how quickly prospects change but what the magnitude of those changes are. Absolutely EVERYTHING these posters posted seemed totally reasonable at the time.


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Originally Posted by Approach1260 (Post 3157310)

I valued flow because it helped to keep seniority moving along at a predictable pace. I never had much desire to fly for AA, I always had my sights set on the LCC's.

Yeah you'll never make mainline money, but the quality of life is some of the best in the industry.

Originally Posted by greatmovieistar (Post 3157314)

Seniority was moving at every Regional. Did not need flow for that, almost everywhere in 2019 you could upgrade as soon as you met the mins. Going back to my original post, the negative of flow is having to accept lower pay and QOL at most WOs because of it. Management was just not willing to make big contract gains because they considered Flow a big part of your compensation. Unfortunately you are paying for that compromise now.

Originally Posted by greatmovieistar (Post 3157314)

Seniority was moving at every Regional. Did not need flow for that, almost everywhere in 2019 you could upgrade as soon as you met the mins. Going back to my original post, the negative of flow is having to accept lower pay and QOL at most WOs because of it. Management was just not willing to make big contract gains because they considered Flow a big part of your compensation. Unfortunately you are paying for that compromise now.