Theres a lot of us here who think that, it's disgusting.

This place sucks... my chief pilot asked for a ****ing doctors note. This is not high school. You don't go to the doctor for a cold.

We don't get half the stuff ya'll get everywhere else. $37/hr and no bonus for new guys...sad.

****ing microsoft tablets.

Then they'll email us about how big their d*** is, and that we need to sit reserve on our days off cuz they can't figure out how to recruit pilots

Because there's more movement. The schedules aren't really "better" but there's less reserve. CRJ movement is fast due to losing guys to ERJ, as well as normal attrition. The only issue with that is, you won't be able to drop trips like the ERJ guys because theres less reserves. Bottom line, you'll become more senior on the CRJ quicker. That is subject to change as we take on more ERJs. You'll be good on either airframe. The most important thing is base selection

So the ERJ guys can drop trips easier because there’s a bigger reserve pool on that airframe??

yes. filler

Thanks man this helps a lot.

I respect this attitude so much. At the end of the day, we are all just at a regional. Let’s just hope we all move on to bigger and better places sooner than later.

Also respect for not taking my joke any further than it was, a joke. :o

Most pilots are SkyWest are good people. But I will say that I did have a SkyWest pilot try to chide me for going to a regional before.

It's probably 4 or 5 people in the whole company that result in all these stereotypes in the first place.

This is the funniest post on this thread. Dude--he is not gonna get eaten alive, ok? He'll be just fine on the line and will probably do a great job. Gotta love flame throwers like you who hide behind a computer screen and ridicule others!

To the OP--congrats on getting to an airline. Enjoy training and soak in your first few flights because you'll remember them forever.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I don't say anything here I wouldn't say in real life, this industry is too small to expect anonymity online. People who get in a tizzy over constructive criticism develop a reputation on the line wherever you go. Not doing any research when plenty of good resources are right in front of you is not going to help you make informed career decisions or learn your airplane.

Sorry if that makes me a "flame thrower".

I'm in no way saying he'll make a bad pilot, but that attitude is not going to end up with happy times in the cockpit and on overnights.

you're already miserable. if you were really happy with your life right now you wouldn't be looking for attention on an aviation forum

this is so true!!

For the E175, going from the bottom of the seniority list it is ORD, BOI, SAN in that order. SAN can be held relatively quickly for a new hire.

I don’t think you’re getting it. People are trying to tell you that all that you have asked has been answered over and over again, you sound like you are clueless. That was the whole reason for the sarcastic answers. Even if you didn’t know, a kid can take a few hours of reading these forums to make a guess at what fleet is better. Now help me out please what should I get for lunch Panda Express or McDonald’s?

Gotta go with Panda 'Press there

You'll learn the phrase "TFAYD" real quick.

You should’ve framed it as “I am choosing Panda!!” Then ask the question is McDonalds better than Panda since the red on their sign is brighter?

McPick 2 is the hot deal right now. Some parts of the country have McRib too.

Amen! Honestly, I don't understand why people on APF are so...
well you said it... miserable.
Surfpilot there are people on here who have no life other than flying and APF. They take all their spare time on here making comments that makes them feel self important and get each other all riled up when really...no one gives a damn.
Fellow aviators...Why can't you just answer the question knowledgeably and professionally? If you don't know the answer and you are that bored and lonely find another question you CAN answer knowledgeably and move on people come on. Grow up. Course I don't know why I bothered typing this. It will only ignite more BS for the lonely bored oh-so-great folks out there. A lot of us don't want to take the time to read all your BS to find an answer so we end up starting a new post JUST to not be depressed getting stuck reading all your crap for hours trying to find an answer.
Yes we know we're underpaid, company doesn't give a damn about us, we're overworked blah blah. If you don't like it...guess what? No one is forcing you (except yourself) to put the uniform on and do it again and again the next day.
Heck yeah applicants will keep coming. After all, seniority is everything! Why wait for contracts after spending tens of thousands to finally get "the hours"?
I'm sorry prospective airline pilots are not working at McDonald's just to appease you and keep classes empty for your $1 raise. In the end, companies squeeze regionals guys for all were worth til we move on to the majors. It is what it is. And hey, in a perfect world...the pencil pushers might see that if they do give us the $$ we deserve, we might actually stay. But when that day comes.....well let's just say, it ain't. Sorry. So all you unhappies clogging up the forum with your misery and unnecessary comments...why don't one of you geniuses make a post just for you. Title it...
"lonely, bored and unhappy? Post here"

Everything aside, this is true. Though it seems most pilots groups (judging by recent ATC meme post) get off on another pilot's stupidity, misery, failures, mistakes, etc.

Who needs cable TV if you have APC [emoji51]


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CRJ is better if you want to fly...a lot. You'll learn a lot, get valuable experience in every sort of environment you could imagine. Your seniority will skyrocket, you'll be able to better your schedule sooner, fly the 700/900 (much nicer, nicer trips, more pay). PLUS, you won't be hesitant to upgrade into the CRJ (pretty quick now), as a lot of FOs have been who never experienced the CRJ. Most of the growth will be Central and East.

ERJ is a nice airplane, pay is ok. Easy (almost too easy at times) to fly. Training is excellent and improving. Bases are arguably better. You could always transition to it after a year (I think). Most of the growth will be West.

All the pros could be cons. It's all how you look at it. Either way, you'll get into a groove and feel comfortable in 6 months to a year.

SkyWest is a great place to be. Not perfect, but you have every opportunity to get what you need out of them if you stay away from the gripers and moaners. I rarely ran into any, though. I think APC magnifies our perceptions of negativity. There are 4,500 pilots at SkyWest. How many SkyWest pilots are posting here regularly?

Seniority for me over the last few months has been an average of 10% a month in ORD on the FO side. I'm sure it'll slow down soon though as I start to get below the people who live here.

700/900 trips don't pay extra until after your first year.

Upgrade is indeed fast. Like, you have the hours, you're good fast...street captain fast.

I'm a positive guy, but I have plenty of things I can moan about if desired. Screw support will live up to their name. If you're CRJ, I hope you live in base, otherwise your life will probably suck. Minimum days off, then include getting extended into days off (for whatever reason, mx, wx, etc.) and then trying to commute home would be rough.

Do NOT expect scheduling flexibility on the CRJ. I'm by no means senior yet, but bidding for minimum credit nets you 95 hours credit in ORD. I have all Fridays and Saturdays off this month though, as well as some Thursdays (weee). That's with a weekends off bid. I also burned my first 4 layers trying to get the 1st-4th off, decreasing to just the 1st off on layer 4. No other parameters. Was awarded a 4-day starting on the 4th :rolleyes:

Thank you man I appreciate it. With the new ERJs that are coming do you think they will help lower the upgrade time for a new hire or is there too many senior CRJ guys moving into them that it won’t make a difference??

Keep in mind that all of the new DL 175s coming are going to NYC. Junior upgrade will still be CRJ ATL/DTW/MSP/ORD but expect the ERJ ORD/NYC (if and when that base opens) to be following closely.

Bottom line is that the plane doesn’t matter except for a couple west coast bases. Make sure to live in base, upgrade when you’re ready not when you can, and get out.

You're choosing skywest?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmvMn3gSKpQ

Surfpilot,

Are you familiar with the term "bucket of crabs"?.

If you want SAN/SEA then it’s ERJ for you. If LAX/SFO are what you want, they’re both doable in a couple months after IOE in either plane. You’ll likely fly more in the CRJ which will equal more money and getting ready to upgrade faster, but less time off.

The key is to live in base though. I know a guy who commutes from FL to DTW, but avoid commuting if at all possible. My life did a 180 when I got based half an hour from my house. I still don’t get paid much, but life is much easier and I’m not spending half my pay on crappy hotel rooms.

Why are you so defensive about everybodys reaction to your stupid declaration of "going to skywest" when the questions youre asking should be answered before arriving at a decision on an airline. Question is how on earth did you arrive at the decision to submit to good ole skw if you didnt know about the pay, bases, qol, or aircraft??

All of that and then deciding to blast it smack in the middle of the everything else discussion board when in fact there is a perfectly good OO sub-forum that will answer everything. That’s just an invitation for APC trolls (myself included). And the topic title just sounds a little pompous.

any training contract/bond ?

Nope, not at all.

He’ll fit right in then. That cool and crisp southern Utah air will do it to you.

Does Skywest still have that average block stuff that isn’t block or better?

Yes. It's "credit or better." Credit is derived from some formula based on actual historical block, supposedly. I've seen it rarely be above block, but it's generally a few minutes below block. Occasionally well below block. You still get paid at least what you fly, but instead of the minimum being what UAL/DAL/AA/Alaska advertise, it's some somewhat smaller amount.

To add onto that, company is getting block or better from my understanding. So company is getting paid to pay you for 1.5 hours, but you're only getting a historical credit of 1.3. Company pockets the rest. TFAYD

Get ready for .70 on go home leg. Hope you don't have a 30 minute commute to catch!

Thanks for taking time from your busy schedule to create this. 😂

It's been two days, and when I look at that meme it still makes me crack up lol.

Surfpilot, you made it through a solid apc lashing. Glad you got your job, hope you get your plane. Sounds like you're trying to do your research. The only thing I needed to know when I joined CP was that there would be free snacks. Everything else works itself out. Wish you the best!

*double wave*