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surfpilot1414 01-08-2018 01:23 PM

I’m choosing Skywest.
 
I narrowed my choices down to Skywest now it’s time to choose airframe (apparently you get a preference???) I’d like to fly the ERJ for the longer hauls instead of the up and downs in the 200 but seniority would be better faster in the CRJ. For all the Skywest guys, CRJ vs ERJ pros and cons? Pay, flight benefits, bases, QOL overall?? Thanks in advance.

Vanilla 01-08-2018 02:30 PM

Join the party: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/skywest/


Bases, pay, etc: https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...gional/skywest

VIRotate 01-08-2018 02:33 PM

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CBreezy 01-08-2018 02:46 PM

That is so good for you. Hey everyone! Make sure to congratulate this guy on making such a great decision. You did a great job buddy.

In unrelated news, shouldn't pay, benefits, bases, etc be the deciding factor in choosing an airline?

minimwage4 01-08-2018 02:48 PM

Whooouuuuuuu cares. How did you get through life without being able to make decisions? What else do you want us to help you With?

N6279P 01-08-2018 03:58 PM

I stayed at a holiday inn express last night.

AKcharger 01-08-2018 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2498310)
Whooouuuuuuu cares. How did you get through life without being able to make decisions? What else do you want us to help you With?


I think it was in his post "...CRJ vs ERJ pros and cons? Pay, flight benefits, bases..."

Fixnem2Flyinem 01-08-2018 04:35 PM

Hope you don't have to call in sick at all while on probation or miss a commute! First goal should be what airframe will get you to the base you live in the fastest, who cares about the plane and leg length because at the end of the day you're still a regional pilot flying planes at a discounted rate. Also, the ups and downs is what makes you most proficient and remain that way, a good way to learn in your first airline gig. Best of luck!

WildBlue025 01-08-2018 05:08 PM

"I've decided to take my talents to Salt Lake"

Varsity 01-08-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by WildBlue025 (Post 2498416)
"I've decided to take my talents to Salt Lake"

Saint George

Duesenflieger 01-08-2018 08:38 PM

Welcome, and prepare to be shafted.

Fr8Thrust 01-08-2018 08:38 PM

Shirley you can’t be serious!

MKUltra 01-09-2018 02:49 AM

But the embrear looks cool when I show a picture of it to chicks..... they don't think it looks tiny like the crj200...

Skywest would not be a first choice right now unless I needed a particular base...

Imagine what happens when endeavor starts flying the 175.. 😊

PDTFlyer 01-09-2018 06:02 AM

Who cares!!?!? Have fun with your decision!!

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 07:18 AM

That went well, thanks for the input guys. Looking forward to flying with you all.

BoldPilot 01-09-2018 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498672)
That went well, thanks for the input guys. Looking forward to flying with you all.

Welcome to APC! Where dreams come to die!!:)

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by BoldPilot (Post 2498695)
Welcome to APC! Where dreams come to die!!:)

I asked the recruiter the questions I posted on here and he couldn’t answer them clearly so I thought to myself, well maybe some of the APC guys might be able to help. I guess I should’ve asked, “how long will it take me to be as miserable as you guys ?” 👍🏼

word302 01-09-2018 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498709)
I asked the recruiter the questions I posted on here and he couldn’t answer them clearly so I thought to myself, well maybe some of the APC guys might be able to help. I guess I should’ve asked, “how long will it take me to be as miserable as you guys ?” 👍🏼

What bases are you interested in? Where do you live? Are you planning to move to base?

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2498717)
What bases are you interested in? Where do you live? Are you planning to move to base?

LAX, SND, SEA
Currently in Florida and eventually once I make a livable wage I’d like to relocate to SoCal.

frankgh 01-09-2018 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498709)
I asked the recruiter the questions I posted on here and he couldn’t answer them clearly so I thought to myself, well maybe some of the APC guys might be able to help. I guess I should’ve asked, “how long will it take me to be as miserable as you guys ?” 👍🏼

I think a lot of folks decide to be miserable. The don’t like the choices they make and will blame others for how their life is working out. Attitude is altitude. I’m not in Afghanistan getting shot at, life is good.

Green Needles 01-09-2018 08:58 AM

Fill in the blank, I'm choosing SkyWest because: I don't know what pilots are worth and love lousy pay and 1% raises!

MKUltra 01-09-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498732)
LAX, SND, SEA
Currently in Florida and eventually once I make a livable wage I’d like to relocate to SoCal.

Take the local job.. get 2000 hours 121 time and than take a job with jet blue and have the long beach base... you won't make a livable wage at sly west for a few years...

What about envoy? There are fos there that can make 70 to 80k a year and there is a Miami base?

You might be able to get the job at Allegiant right away...

word302 01-09-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498732)
LAX, SND, SEA
Currently in Florida and eventually once I make a livable wage I’d like to relocate to SoCal.

I would say go ERJ. There are no CRJs in SAN and soon to be none in SEA. The ERJ growth is mostly out West.

DarkSideMoon 01-09-2018 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498709)
I asked the recruiter the questions I posted on here and he couldn’t answer them clearly so I thought to myself, well maybe some of the APC guys might be able to help. I guess I should’ve asked, “how long will it take me to be as miserable as you guys ?” 👍🏼

The reason you're getting flak is because you can glean all these answers, and more, by reading the relevant SKW threads. Which one is "best" is entirely dependent on you. Would you rather have quick seniority or longer flights? Would you rather have seniority on an airplane or move to LA as soon as possible? We can't answer these questions for you and you're going to need to learn to be more self sufficient if you want to survive in this industry. The reason a lot of airlines are able to fill classes (and thus justify not raising pay) is because people get lured in with very little research by recruiters. It's very frustrating to be on the other side, trying to convince your company they need to raise pay, when people who have done zero research are flooding classes.

Baradium 01-09-2018 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498709)
I asked the recruiter the questions I posted on here and he couldn’t answer them clearly so I thought to myself, well maybe some of the APC guys might be able to help. I guess I should’ve asked, “how long will it take me to be as miserable as you guys ?” ����

Then why didn't you ask in the SkyWest section instead of the general one?

Anyone who isn't at SkyWest can't answer your questions about those and posting in the general forum just makes it seem more like a broadcast of what you're doing than a question.

PDTFlyer 01-09-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2498893)
Then why didn't you ask in the SkyWest section instead of the general one?

Anyone who isn't at SkyWest can't answer your questions about those and posting in the general forum just makes it seem more like a broadcast of what you're doing than a question.

What he said....

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2498893)
Then why didn't you ask in the SkyWest section instead of the general one?

Anyone who isn't at SkyWest can't answer your questions about those and posting in the general forum just makes it seem more like a broadcast of what you're doing than a question.

I just realized there was a specific Skywest section. I don’t use this forum often and it’ll probably stay that way after the replies I mostly received.

DarkSideMoon 01-09-2018 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498906)
I just realized there was a specific Skywest section. I don’t use this forum often and it’ll probably stay that way after the replies I mostly received.

We'll miss you.

Seriously no one has said anything here that scathing to you. Try posting something stupid on the Skywest Facebook group and see how it goes over. I've seen at least one person likely tank their career, at least short term, over it. There's a lot of good advice here and you're brushing it off as "Bitter unhappy people" rather than looking into it.

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2498892)
The reason you're getting flak is because you can glean all these answers, and more, by reading the relevant SKW threads. Which one is "best" is entirely dependent on you. Would you rather have quick seniority or longer flights? Would you rather have seniority on an airplane or move to LA as soon as possible? We can't answer these questions for you and you're going to need to learn to be more self sufficient if you want to survive in this industry. The reason a lot of airlines are able to fill classes (and thus justify not raising pay) is because people get lured in with very little research by recruiters. It's very frustrating to be on the other side, trying to convince your company they need to raise pay, when people who have done zero research are flooding classes.

I’m trying to do the research hence why I asked the questions. I understand there isn’t a perfect company, you cant please everyone but I made my choice according to what I believe is best for ME. The post wasn’t meant as a “hey look at me, I chose SKywest” it was a legitimate attempt to get some real answers from SKYWEST pilots who are currently flying the line not a recruiter. I honestly don’t care what the opinion is about the company I care about what the opinion is on the airframes. PS I did try reading a few posts but none of the ones I found had what I was looking for. If you don’t like what I asked, move on you don’t have to respond.

Green Needles 01-09-2018 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498906)
I just realized there was a specific Skywest section. I don’t use this forum often and it’ll probably stay that way after the replies I mostly received.

We're just trying to speak a little truth. 9E, the AA WOs, republic, etc are all upping pay, finally getting close to where it should be. SkyPest voted in a lousy contract with lousy pay. That undercuts what every other pilot group is trying to accomplish. I'm sure you'll understand why we we won't shed any tears when you leave this forum. I just hope you open your eyes to see what the market is for pilots right now.

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2498938)
We're just trying to speak a little truth. 9E, the AA WOs, republic, etc are all upping pay, finally getting close to where it should be. SkyPest voted in a lousy contract with lousy pay. That undercuts what every other pilot group is trying to accomplish. I'm sure you'll understand why we we won't shed any tears when you leave this forum. I just hope you open your eyes to see what the market is for pilots right now.

Hey I’m with you man and hopefully Skywest realizes that if they don’t match the pay of the other guys they will lose a lot of people and im not sure exactly how it works but since there’s no union I’m assuming management can just give y’all the pay raise without a lot of bureaucracies but I already decided on Skywest because of other reasons not just pay. My questions were specifically about the airframes. It’s like everyone ignored the fact that I asked about the airframes and immediately focused on the fact that I chose Skywest. Maybe it was the damn thread title.🤔

DarkSideMoon 01-09-2018 12:17 PM

You're going to get eaten alive out on the line man. Good luck.

MidnightHauler 01-09-2018 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by surfpilot1414 (Post 2498937)
I’m trying to do the research hence why I asked the questions. I understand there isn’t a perfect company, you cant please everyone but I made my choice according to what I believe is best for ME. The post wasn’t meant as a “hey look at me, I chose SKywest” it was a legitimate attempt to get some real answers from SKYWEST pilots who are currently flying the line not a recruiter. I honestly don’t care what the opinion is about the company I care about what the opinion is on the airframes. PS I did try reading a few posts but none of the ones I found had what I was looking for. If you don’t like what I asked, move on you don’t have to respond.

Sorry you stumbled into a hornets nest of ****ed off, disgruntled, and mostly NON Skywest pilots who think they're going to change the company by posting useless garbage and rants about how bad they think Skywest is. Sitting around *****ing and complaining about everything under the sun without offering anything other than criticism.
Skywest isn't perfect by any means, but it's still not a bad place to be, especially if you're starting out or moving into 121 ops. Flying wise, Skywest has an excellent record and the mainliners like it. You'll fly your a** off after a few short months on reserve and probably get the base you prefer. As far as airplanes to choose from, choose the one that gets you closer or exactly what you want. CRJ bases are shifting a little eastward and the ERJ bases are mainly west. CRJ will probably get you a faster upgrade if you're willing to move Midwest or east. As far as turbine time goes, both are equal in the logbook.
We have great people here. Most everyone is willing to help. You'll do fine.

MidnightHauler 01-09-2018 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2498964)
You're going to get eaten alive out on the line man. Good luck.

I can see you've been a ton of help. This isn't prison.

DarkSideMoon 01-09-2018 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2498991)
I can see you've been a ton of help. This isn't prison.

I gave him advice and pointed him to places he can research it for himself, as did most of the other posters. The helpless attitude, thin skin, and rejecting advice from people is not going to help him be successful in training or on the line.

snackysmores 01-09-2018 01:22 PM

the mormon air force isn't for everyone

VIRotate 01-09-2018 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by MidnightHauler (Post 2498988)
Skywest isn't perfect by any means, but it's still not a bad place to be, especially if you're starting out or moving into 121 ops. Flying wise, Skywest has an excellent record and the mainliners like it.

I thought y'all were mainline???? :confused:

EFBprobs 01-09-2018 01:39 PM

It would help to know where you want to live. West coast, ERJ, midwest/atlanta, CRJ. You can get pretty much anything within a few months base wise except SLC/IAH/SAN/BOI/FAT/PHX those will take longer. If you want SAN/BOI, ERJ is the only option. If you want IAH/DTW/MSP/ATL/SLC/COS/TUS/PSP/PHX, CRJ is your only option. Upgrade time is irrelevant of airframe, you can upgrade into another, however you will get your 1000 121 time faster on CRJ. You will sit reserve longer on ERJ. ERJ schedules are better by a small margin. Do not choose the ERJ for VNAV and A/T's.

surfpilot1414 01-09-2018 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2499048)
It would help to know where you want to live. West coast, ERJ, midwest/atlanta, CRJ. You can get pretty much anything within a few months base wise except SLC/IAH/SAN/BOI/FAT/PHX those will take longer. If you want SAN/BOI, ERJ is the only option. If you want IAH/DTW/MSP/ATL/SLC/COS/TUS/PSP/PHX, CRJ is your only option. Upgrade time is irrelevant of airframe, you can upgrade into another, however you will get your 1000 121 time faster on CRJ. You will sit reserve longer on ERJ. ERJ schedules are better by a small margin. Do not choose the ERJ for VNAV and A/T's.

Thank you, as far as scheduling flexibility, is the crj better because there’s more of them or is it the same ???


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