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Most already know but the 1900 at Air Midwest is ATP mins but I do believe all the other aircraft operated under Mesa / Freedom are ATP w/ ICAO mins. Of course with upgrade time over 3 years now that should be no problem at all :rolleyes:
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ASA is 3000 i think but they said they've lowered it in the past when they had to and they probably will again within the next couple years because upgrade times are gonna start going down dramatically (they didn't do any hiring for like a year and a half)
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Good ole' TSA is 3000 total, 2000 multi, 1200 turbine. The mins become 2200 total, 1600 multi, and 1200 turbine if you have at leats 800 hours in the company ERJ.
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Originally Posted by groovinaviator
(Post 143498)
This is kinda crazy in my opinion, but here at AWAC I believe the upgrade mins are the same as ATP mins... 1500TT... not that anyone is seeing upgrades here anytime soon :(
Your right, not that it matters...even the 400hr type rating folks will have 2500 by the time they upgrade... |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 143716)
Its not published, but I think by default mins are ICAO (2500tt) as I don't see CS building schedules with no Canada flying in them.
Your right, not that it matters...even the 400hr type rating folks will have 2500 by the time they upgrade... A lot of mesa folks had that problem a few years ago...their upgrades were revoked, they were bypassed, and had to go get more time. |
Go to Colgan, if you Ki** enough a** and never complain about them shorting you pay, who knows you can upgrade in a month or two :)
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Since it comes up a lot, what exactly are the ICAO minimums?
Rickair mentioned that ICAO minimums includes 1200 PIC. But if you get hired at a regional with 1200TT or less, you will not get 1200PIC until you upgrade. Is there some rule where a certain amount of SIC can count towards PIC, or do guys with less than 1200TT when hired have to go rent a 152?? |
Originally Posted by ryane946
(Post 143766)
Since it comes up a lot, what exactly are the ICAO minimums?
Rickair mentioned that ICAO minimums includes 1200 PIC. But if you get hired at a regional with 1200TT or less, you will not get 1200PIC until you upgrade. Is there some rule where a certain amount of SIC can count towards PIC, or do guys with less than 1200TT when hired have to go rent a 152?? |
It's in FAA Order 8400.10...
...There are two circumstances in which an ICAO restriction must be added to an applicant’s ATP certificate: A. The first circumstance requiring an ICAO restric- tion is when the applicant uses SIC or FE time to meet the 1,500 total pilot hour requirement. The restriction is required when the total of the applicant’s PIC time (see paragraph 55A, first bullet) and 50 percent of the SIC time (see paragraph 55A, third bullet) does not exceed 1,200 hours. In this case, the restriction placed on the certificate must be, “Holder does not meet the pilot flight experience requirements of ICAO.” The following is an example of how to compute whether this restriction is required: B. The second circumstance requiring an ICAO restriction is when an applicant has less than 150 actual PIC hours. In this case, the restriction placed on the cer- tificate must be, “Holder does not meet the PIC flight experience requirement of ICAO.”... Hope that helps. |
I'm not sure how other airlines do it, but at ASA you must meet the ICAO standard because we do so much international. I forget all the numbers but I know 3,000 TOTAL time is one requirement.
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