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Old 05-06-2018 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger
If a wholly owned with a flow is essentially hiring for their mainline partner, do they have to follow specific hiring guidelines? If everyone with checkride failures and DUI's flocks to AA owned regionals, I don't imagine that AA is going to be too happy when everyone with too many skeletons in their closet to get hired anywhere else flows to their seniority list. Are they contractually required to accept anyone their wholly owned hires with no exceptions?
Yes, flow is guaranteed but their hiring standards might be a tad tighter for that reason. I understand one DUI is OK, not sure about two.

I assume you already resolved the DUI issue with the FAA and have a clean 1C?

I would recommend that you try really hard to get the flow. In the past lifer CA at OO or QX might not be the end of the world but the regionals are STRAPPED for pilots, so they are working everyone to the bone. And if they ultimately can't hire any FO's, the surviving regionals will consist of very senior lifer CA's flying with FO's who used to be not-so-senior lifer CA's.
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Old 05-06-2018 | 05:45 PM
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My 02.c go with the flow and try to get out early. AA is taking quite a few outside the flow these days with hiring ramping up. Also know two guys with 2 duis that are flying for legacies. They were a decade ago and they learned from them. Its not the end of the world. Keep your head up, do well in training, build solid 121 record and you should be just fine.
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Old 05-07-2018 | 04:14 PM
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2 DUIs within a month? I’d start coming up with an explanation for not learning from the first one......fairly certain it will come up.
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Old 05-07-2018 | 06:39 PM
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Thanks everyone for the constructive feedback, I appreciate it. Looks like a consensus on this one.

Yeah no issues with FAA or 1st class medical.

Thanks again.
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Old 05-07-2018 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hawk21
SkyWest won’t be fond of those convictions on the record.
Lol. 10 years ago? Give me a break.
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Old 05-08-2018 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Lol. 10 years ago? Give me a break.
Better off not going to Skywest any way with their horrid contract and ****ty QOL.
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Old 05-08-2018 | 03:57 PM
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Go with the flow - that's a HUGE backstop against a HUGE uncertainty for you. You can still apply to everyone. If nobody bites, you still have options.
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Old 05-08-2018 | 04:40 PM
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Anybody these days with a clean record and a degree should not chase a Regional for a flow. Flow should be way down on the list of priorities when picking a Regional. However you are the rare case where if you can get onto a flow, that should be your top priority. If you can get hired by a company with flow to AA, that means if you so chose you will never have to explain your way through those two DUI arrests again for the rest of your life. Otherwise those two incidents will rear their ugly heads all over again when you chose to start applying for the majors.
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Old 05-09-2018 | 05:43 AM
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Negligent Driving does not equal DUI.
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Old 05-09-2018 | 09:04 AM
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For sure you should go for the flow. Go to psa or piedmont. Envoy has the longest flow for new hires. For some reason they have a much higher percent of people holding out for flow than the other 2.

By all means keep your apps updated and try like heck to get on somewhere else, but ask yourself in 5-10 years and no one else has called, would you rather be at american or possibly still stuck at a regional?
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