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GuardPolice 07-15-2018 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2634411)
The "adequate O2 seal" is a more of a myth and the AC where the FAA "studied" it is 30 years old. In Europe, beards are common with pilots, and for some reason, they don't have that problem.


Better tell certain O2 mask manufacturers. I’ve seen some 121 approved masks that have a warning to the effect of “facial hair will not allow a good seal.”

TransWorld 07-15-2018 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by GuardPolice (Post 2635332)
Better tell certain O2 mask manufacturers. I’ve seen some 121 approved masks that have a warning to the effect of “facial hair will not allow a good seal.”

No facial hair is a standard requirement for anyone working in a chemical plant, oil refinery, etc. An O2 mask fit test and training for a SCOTT air pack (like Fire Fighters wear) is mandatory once a year. Even a contract construction or maintenance worker entering an operating plant is required to shave or is forbidden from entering.

Swakid8 07-15-2018 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2635366)
No facial hair is a standard requirement for anyone working in a chemical plant, oil refinery, etc. An O2 mask fit test and training for a SCOTT air pack (like Fire Fighters wear) is mandatory once a year. Even a contract construction or maintenance worker entering an operating plant is required to shave or is forbidden from entering.


Same for wearing EABs on submarines


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Cyio 07-15-2018 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2635366)
No facial hair is a standard requirement for anyone working in a chemical plant, oil refinery, etc. An O2 mask fit test and training for a SCOTT air pack (like Fire Fighters wear) is mandatory once a year. Even a contract construction or maintenance worker entering an operating plant is required to shave or is forbidden from entering.

Yeah it seems pretty obvious that if there is hair, regardless of how fine it may be, would allow a gap.

SonicFlyer 07-15-2018 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by HarlsBarkley (Post 2635325)
My personal favorites are the pilots whose ties, for whatever reason (gut, zipper tie too short, can’t tie a real tie correctly), only go down two-thirds from the collar to the belt buckle. Look like a bunch of cartoon characters walking around.



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KtzWkKxVlBU/maxresdefault.jpg

rickair7777 07-15-2018 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2635389)
Same for wearing EABs on submarines


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The frog men wore beards. Crews had beard contests during long underway periods. Also, it's not an O2 mask, so your face won't spontaneously combust because your beard is O2 saturated.

I think the face seal issue is over blown. But I wouldn't want an oxygen saturated beard in a fire.

sflpilot 07-15-2018 03:55 PM

The IBM look from the 60s is long gone. Corporate America pretty much across-the-board now doesn’t wear suits and ties. Also the flying public does not care. They hardly ever even look at or notice the pilots. Most corporate pilots don’t wear the historic uniform. The best option is probably a mix of something more casual but still the uniform.

dera 07-15-2018 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2635423)
The frog men wore beards. Crews had beard contests during long underway periods. Also, it's not an O2 mask, so your face won't spontaneously combust because your beard is O2 saturated.

I think the face seal issue is over blown. But I wouldn't want an oxygen saturated beard in a fire.

Yep. Also got to remember, beards are not a problem anywhere else in the world.

Paid2fly 07-15-2018 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2635280)
An airline pilot’s uniform should express his true, inner self, regardless of how others feel about it. :rolleyes:

http://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/7...J3MW5BY2QU.jpg







@Tom, which one represents your "true, inner self"?


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Hetman 07-15-2018 07:18 PM

I don't reckon I should be surprised anymore, but it seems that threads about pilot vanity typically go on and on.

And on.

Ad nauseum.

Self assessment: Are you vain? Is vanity a virtue or a fault?

Just sayin'.

And askin'

https://vitamintalent.com/blog/img/2...re-awesome.jpg


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