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Old 10-10-2018 | 09:39 AM
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Let’s stop pretending. Nothing that we do is regional.

My last trip: ORD CLT IAH; IAH DCA EWR; EWR DFW EWR; EWR DCA ORD. Nothing about those cities, or routes, is regional. The only thing regional about this are the paychecks and the crappy hotels we stay in. It’s time we stand up for ourselves and take what we deserve in all of our contract negotiations.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
Let’s stop pretending. Nothing that we do is regional.

My last trip: ORD CLT IAH; IAH DCA EWR; EWR DFW EWR; EWR DCA ORD. Nothing about those cities, or routes, is regional. The only thing regional about this are the paychecks and the crappy hotels we stay in. It’s time we stand up for ourselves and take what we deserve in all of our contract negotiations.
Representation matters, but true results for “regionals” won’t com from APLA.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
Let’s stop pretending. Nothing that we do is regional.

My last trip: ORD CLT IAH; IAH DCA EWR; EWR DFW EWR; EWR DCA ORD. Nothing about those cities, or routes, is regional. The only thing regional about this are the paychecks and the crappy hotels we stay in. It’s time we stand up for ourselves and take what we deserve in all of our contract negotiations.
Would you feel better if we push to change the name?

I submit:
B-scale Pilot Group
Scope Clause
Farm Team

The regionals are not going anywhere- someone needs to give the majors profits.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by flywithjohn
Would you feel better if we push to change the name?

I submit:
B-scale Pilot Group
Scope Clause
Farm Team

The regionals are not going anywhere- someone needs to give the majors profits.
You missed the point. LGA turns out of ORD for DL while UA and AA mainline push next to me doing the same thing should be a crime. Of course regionals aren’t going anywhere, but it’s time we start tapping in to those profits while we do the same exact thing they do and support their product more than mainline pilots do.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
but it’s time we start tapping in to those profits while we do the same exact thing they do and support their product more than mainline pilots do.



There's an app for that...

https://www.airlineapps.com/



But in all seriousness, if you get too expensive you'll cease to exist. Can't have your cake and eat it too at the regionals.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There's an app for that...

https://www.airlineapps.com/



But in all seriousness, if you get too expensive you'll cease to exist. Can't have your cake and eat it too at the regionals.
That should be the goal.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
That should be the goal.
Then resign. Sadly someone will take your place tomorrow
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Old 10-10-2018 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
You missed the point. LGA turns out of ORD for DL while UA and AA mainline push next to me doing the same thing should be a crime. Of course regionals aren’t going anywhere, but it’s time we start tapping in to those profits while we do the same exact thing they do and support their product more than mainline pilots do.
If ifs and buts where candy and nuts, we would all have a merry Christmas - as a regional pilot how exactly do you think we should accomplish this?

Seems to me a company called Commair tried that - and it did about as good as the Bay of Pigs Invasion did. Aviation is a layer cake and the regionals are at the bottom - that’s the fact of life.

Airline Apps is a way out, because if your respective pilot group finds a way to tap into those “profits”, there is five other regional companies willing to do the contract for less than you and before you know your airline is stapled to the long list of “defunct airlines”.
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Old 10-10-2018 | 03:13 PM
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Regionals use to be that DFW-Waco,tyler, texarkana, ect... then the RJ came along... Air Canada did it right. But then even them lost the battle.... sadly the stalls to deep to recover.... Mainline should focus more on International scope (no more JV) then hash out how to get back the RJ flying...
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