Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Regional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/)
-   -   Choosing a regional - QOL above all (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/119074-choosing-regional-qol-above-all.html)

Thedude86 01-12-2019 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Slow (Post 2741488)

The higher your daily credit is, the more days off you can achieve. So you might not get the cushy 2 leg days with 18hr overnights, but I did 16-18 days off all last year and averaged 70hr block with 90+hr of credit. If you want those lower credit, easier days... there are plenty of those to be had.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At PSA 16-18 days off will only give you 65-75 hours of credit. 80 if youre senior enough to get a good initial bid award. So even if PSA had the same pay rates as Republic youre looking at a $500-$1000 difference per month just on FO pay with the same amount of days off. Based off actual PSA pay youre looking at a $1300-$1700 less than Republic with the same amount of days off per month or $15,600-$20,400 per year. For Captain pay you could probably double that or multiply it by 150% at the absolute least.

Thedude86 01-12-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Phoenix21 (Post 2741670)
16 days off commuting on one or both ends can easily shave 3-6 days off a month.

When you drive to work you can wake up in your own bed the first day of a trip and get lay down in your own bed on the last day of the trip and not worry about Wx/mx cancellations or getting bumped from a Jumpseat or having too low priority non rev to get a seat delaying when you can get home from work.

This is always true no matter where you go. I’m not at Piedmont, but from what I’ve read most of their trips aren’t commutable on both ends either so if youre a commuter... theoretically youre probably only getting only 6-7 days off a month if you factor in your commuting days. All while only getting around 75 hours of credit each month even for the senior pilots.

Really what it boils down to is, the American wholly owneds offer the flow which is definitely of value, but youre realistically going to make $15k-$30k less per year as an FO and about $30k-$70k less as a Captain compared to non AA wholly owned airlines. A lot of people like to exaggerate on these threads, but I would challenge anyone who doesnt believe me to read the threads of the other airlines on this site and/or ask their buddies that are at these other carriers what they’re making and what their days off are on average each month.

Captain Slow 01-12-2019 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2741893)
read the threads of the other airlines on this site and/or ask their buddies that are at these other carriers what they’re making and what their days off are on average each month.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...01ff4c7e86.jpg

I’d have to go back and look for the rest of them since they drop out of flica.... but that was last month for me. Didn’t include the extra credit for the holiday. The rest of the year was similar.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Captain Slow 01-12-2019 07:26 PM

Choosing a regional - QOL above all
 
Double post. Du’oh

bronc 01-12-2019 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Slow (Post 2741914)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...01ff4c7e86.jpg

I’d have to go back and look for the rest of them since they drop out of flica.... but that was last month for me. Didn’t include the extra credit for the holiday. The rest of the year was similar.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Great looks like everyone at republic has it made, go ahead and tuck away those major apps. Dont need those!!

DarkSideMoon 01-12-2019 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by bronc (Post 2741924)
Great looks like everyone at republic has it made, go ahead and tuck away those major apps. Dont need those!!

There’s something to be said for being at a place that offers you decent QOL if you get stuck for whatever reason. Unless you’re at an AA WO there’s no guarantee you’ll ever make the majors.

Thedude86 01-13-2019 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by bronc (Post 2741924)
Great looks like everyone at republic has it made, go ahead and tuck away those major apps. Dont need those!!

He’s not bragging. He’s proving my point.

Captain Slow 01-13-2019 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2742005)
He’s not bragging. He’s proving my point.



Precisely. It’s not perfect by any means, I have my apps out just like I hope everyone else does. But the point is your time at a regional doesn’t have to suck.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Phoenix21 01-13-2019 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 2741893)
This is always true no matter where you go. I’m not at Piedmont, but from what I’ve read most of their trips aren’t commutable on both ends either so if youre a commuter... theoretically youre probably only getting only 6-7 days off a month if you factor in your commuting days. All while only getting around 75 hours of credit each month even for the senior pilots.

Really what it boils down to is, the American wholly owneds offer the flow which is definitely of value, but youre realistically going to make $15k-$30k less per year as an FO and about $30k-$70k less as a Captain compared to non AA wholly owned airlines. A lot of people like to exaggerate on these threads, but I would challenge anyone who doesnt believe me to read the threads of the other airlines on this site and/or ask their buddies that are at these other carriers what they’re making and what their days off are on average each month.

In the OPs case, he could 16-18 days off a month long term and drive to work to CLT with PSA thanks to the SAP. There may be periods of commuting as he’s junior in each seat but at least he’d know there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

All things being equal, would be my first choice in that position.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:22 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands