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DarkSideMoon 01-24-2019 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2748854)
I agree which is why I don't understand your point. We both agree the TSA serves no real purpose other than just being there, so what does it matter how sharp the workers are or if they're getting paid or not?

Because the large public perception that they no longer care about their jobs makes aviation a more attractive target.

The bigger threat is increasingly distracted ATC as this drags on.

majorpilot 01-24-2019 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2748854)
I agree which is why I don't understand your point. We both agree the TSA serves no real purpose other than just being there, so what does it matter how sharp the workers are or if they're getting paid or not?


Because not enough staff = closed checkpoints. Closed checkpoints = reduced (or eliminated) access to airside. This will inhibit traveling, and deter passengers. You know, the people who pay us.

What no one is mentioning is how this is gutting federal law enforcement ... investigations stalling and informants being lost because there are no funds. Oh wait, perhaps we can privatize law enforcement too...

wildcat1 01-24-2019 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by majorpilot (Post 2748920)
Because not enough staff = closed checkpoints. Closed checkpoints = reduced (or eliminated) access to airside. This will inhibit traveling, and deter passengers. You know, the people who pay us.

What no one is mentioning is how this is gutting federal law enforcement ... investigations stalling and informants being lost because there are no funds. Oh wait, perhaps we can privatize law enforcement too...

That's all fantasy. The longest line in the country a few days ago was 41 minutes at Dallas LUV. They have that long of a line every day. Nothing has changed.

stabapch 01-27-2019 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by wildcat1 (Post 2748257)
https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/articles/news/the-government-shutdown-is-endangering-airline-pilots.html

This is such b.s. Does anyone really think that pilots, mechanics, the TSA, FAA or ATC aren't doing their job professionally because their pay is delayed? Seriously?!

Yes, ask the Colgan Air 3407 pilots.

TSA are making pre-Colgan crash regional pilot pay, aka less than a McDonald’s employee.

You start to make ‘comfortable’ pay at ATC after 2 years, depending on facility assignment and qualifications. However, just because you make good money, doesn’t mean you’re saving it. Most people live paycheck to paycheck nowadays.

There is nothing bull about this article. It’s a fact. When you don’t get paid, it’s slave labor. Nobody loves their job that much to show up or work at full performance when no money is coming in and the mortgage, utilities and credit score isn’t frozen with the paycheck...

stabapch 01-27-2019 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2748317)
This is what happens when an entire industry is over regulated and dependent upon the government. :(

LOL because corporations are known to put the best interests of the public over their profit.....

SonicFlyer 01-27-2019 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by stabapch (Post 2750936)
LOL because corporations are known to put the best interests of the public over their profit.....

They don't tend to keep customers if they don't provide a good product/service.

PontiusPilot 01-27-2019 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2751320)
They don't tend to keep customers if they don't provide a good product/service.

That really has nothing to do with what he just said.

Corporations exist to make a profit, and not to serve the public good. Labor, the public, and the environment are ripe for exploitation whenever profit is the primary motivation of behavior.

SonicFlyer 01-28-2019 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by PontiusPilot (Post 2751333)
Corporations exist to make a profit, and not to serve the public good.

You only make a profit when you serve others.

DarkSideMoon 01-28-2019 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2751392)
You only make a profit when you serve others.


Bayer and Thyssen-Krupp made quite a profit in the 40’s....

ninerdriver 01-28-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 2751455)
Bayer and Thyssen-Krupp made quite a profit in the 40’s....

Union Carbide did pretty well in the 80s, too...


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