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Old 04-27-2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kdoner
I heard the other day, that, airlines are considering paying off a percentage of student loans in order to attract more pilots. ANYBODY ELSE HEARD THIS??

Pvt. Pilot- $8,000
Inst Rating- $8,000
Comm License- $18,000
Multi Time (100hrs) - $8,000 (split with another pilot)
CFI, CFII, - $3,000
Sally Mae Loan- for the $45,000 = $113,000 in about 15 years

New job at the regionals making $20,000 for the next 3 years= PRICELESS

For everything else, there's uncle sam, waiting, to TAKE HIS 20% AWAY FROM YOU EVERY WEEK!!!
You got ripped on your flight training. Why buy multi when you could have someone pay for it?
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Old 04-28-2007 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
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I was just referring to your comment about pvt. pilot skills are not necessary for airline flying skills... (the MD11 capt. who didnt know what a sectional was or something like that) just sorta relating it to.. how sometimes we gotta do what we dont wanna do (i.e.- as kids mowing the lawn or taking out trash) yea those chores arent gonna help him/her as a professional lawyer, architect, what have you... but its the life lessons that overall that keep us straight.

If you put some young guns in a RJ from day 1.... yea they'll be great, but...ONE WORD- basics...

*** when i have kids and when it comes the day to teach em to learn to ride a bike, i'm not gonna put him/her on 10-spd schwinn.. i dont care if he/she wants to be lance armstrong... u bet its the $45 huffy at wal-mart first...***

just an example.... please dont bite my head off if you did learn on a 10-spd schwinn
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Old 04-28-2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
You got ripped on your flight training. Why buy multi when you could have someone pay for it?

excuse me for my terrible calculations on my guesstimate...

i've heard from $20,000 - $70,000 for flight training... from 0-250 CFI CFII MEI

just thought i'd be safe and take the middle ground. guess not.

By the way, i'm not saying you are implying this, but not everybody has an uncle with a cessna.... or lives in a place where they still rent 152's for $50/hr...
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Old 04-28-2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kdoner
I was just referring to your comment about pvt. pilot skills are not necessary for airline flying skills... (the MD11 capt. who didnt know what a sectional was or something like that) just sorta relating it to.. how sometimes we gotta do what we dont wanna do (i.e.- as kids mowing the lawn or taking out trash) yea those chores arent gonna help him/her as a professional lawyer, architect, what have you... but its the life lessons that overall that keep us straight.

If you put some young guns in a RJ from day 1.... yea they'll be great, but...ONE WORD- basics...

*** when i have kids and when it comes the day to teach em to learn to ride a bike, i'm not gonna put him/her on 10-spd schwinn.. i dont care if he/she wants to be lance armstrong... u bet its the $45 huffy at wal-mart first...***

just an example.... please dont bite my head off if you did learn on a 10-spd schwinn

The basics of yesterday are useless today.

You were spared a lot of crazy stuff that they use to train pilots for in the 1940's. An airline pilot can get by just fine without most of what is taught in smaller planes. The sport pilot license is proof that the FAA can cut out what is not needed to create a more efficient training system for the goal at hand. A pilot who is committed to flying jets professionally could cut the time of training greatly and focus on what they really need to learn.

Sport Pilot license today. Commercial MEL 121 limitation tomorrow. Just because we all had to learn that stuff doesnt mean it is necessary.

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Old 04-28-2007 | 09:45 PM
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"The basics of yesterday are useless today"

Disagree.

An airplane is an airplane.

A good airline pilot is a good pilot who happens to fly for an airline.
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Old 04-28-2007 | 10:00 PM
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well i tried to make part of that my sig but it didn't work
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Old 04-29-2007 | 04:35 PM
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I agree a degree alone does not make a good pilot. I do see how having a degree might help make some people better pilots in terms of critical thinking skills. Furthermore, by the time someone graduates from college, they're older, generally more mature, and less reckless (obviously this doesn't work for everyone, but I think most people would agree it's true for the majority of people).

Lastly, I wouldn't want to go into the aviation industry without a degree that gave me more options. Why would I want to get a job for an airline just in time for a downturn, be furloughed, and not have a degree to do something else. I'd rather have a backup plan other than McDonalds.

While I don't think a degree is entirely necessary, I do see some benefits to having one for at least some people. Some of the discussions on this thread have been incredibly rude and closed minded, in terms of the value of higher education. Yeah, it's expensive most of the time, but my 4 years of undergrad were the best of my life, and I learned far more at my university - from academic learning to practical application - than I ever could have in any other environment.

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Old 04-29-2007 | 08:33 PM
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red baron, you should prepare to hear that some individual out there, dropped out of college, and began working for himself, he is now happy, has a Porsche, 2 1/2 kids, and a smokin hot wife, while he works only 8 hours a week, and money simply keeps coming in.

for 99% of individuals an education is their only true chance at succeeding in life, there are cases that are rare in which you don't need higher education, but, its normally more luck than not. I've met lots of people, often ex military sorts who were trained in computer software back in the mid 1980's, when they got out of the military, they found themselves in high demand in the civilian world, and now, without a formal higher education are making nice six figures and spend every night at home. And if you ask any of them, they'll tell you to stay in school, cause their wise enough to know how quickly all their luck could have changed. Same can be said for anyone, in any industry.
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