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Flygirl757 05-29-2019 09:25 PM

Competitive mins.
 
Just getting back into the field after many years off. Looking for guidance. Types in 757, 767, 320, and BE400A. 1200 TT, 750 turbine, 160 jet.

tonsterboy5 05-29-2019 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828605)
Just getting back into the field after many years off. Looking for guidance. Types in 757, 767, 320, and BE400A. 1200 TT, 750 turbine, 160 jet.

Did you collect types for fun? How did you get a 756 and 320 type with just 1200tt?

ESQ702 05-29-2019 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2828608)
Did you collect types for fun? How did you get a 756 and 320 type with just 1200tt?

Good question. My guess is she was flying in Europe or Asia.

Flygirl757 05-29-2019 09:40 PM

I flew regional for many hours before the 1500 rule took place. Worked for a major 121 carrier that typed me on the 757/767, and 320. Recent type on the BE 400A.

Paid2fly 05-29-2019 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828614)
I flew regional for many hours before the 1500 rule took place. Worked for a major 121 carrier that typed me on the 757/767, and 320. Recent type on the BE 400A.






With a total of "160 hours jet" they typed you in the 757/767 and 320?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

itsmytime 05-30-2019 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 2828622)
With a total of "160 hours jet" they typed you in the 757/767 and 320?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yeah, something isn’t adding up.......literally.

rickair7777 05-30-2019 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 2828622)
With a total of "160 hours jet" they typed you in the 757/767 and 320?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2828714)
Yeah, something isn’t adding up.......literally.

It's mathematically possible, if hired during a period of turmoil...

Hired, typed on boeing, sit reserve, barely fly then displaced to bus, typed, furloughed. All of my Navy bros at the big three have about six types each, most got furloughed (at least once), and only flew a few thousand hours for a 5-10 year period.

Or had a college internship at a major, and got a type or two out of the deal, I've known folks who did that back in the day.

Or overseas airlines.

Meow1215 05-30-2019 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828605)
Just getting back into the field after many years off. Looking for guidance. Types in 757, 767, 320, and BE400A. 1200 TT, 750 turbine, 160 jet.

To answer the question asked and not act astounded about a few type ratings...

Regional - as long as your current, have your 1st class, and your ATP - your qualified now.

Majors - 1,000-2,000 hours turbine. Depends on how long your lapse was, but most places will want to see you finish a 121 training program and grab at least 500 hours before your declared current. The type ratings will help. Upgrading at a regional will help also.

rickair7777 05-30-2019 07:47 AM

Total time is too low for majors, only fighter pilots can get hired with much less than 2000 hours. Maybe certain other mil platforms.

ZeroTT 05-30-2019 08:21 AM

If you have 1200TT you need to get 1500 then you are hired

itsmytime 05-30-2019 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2828789)
Total time is too low for majors, only fighter pilots can get hired with much less than 2000 hours. Maybe certain other mil platforms.

That’s what I was getting at. OP stated they went to the regionals
First. Even if hired at 250, in less than 900 hours, you were picked up by a major and typed twice?

Only way is the intern thing or some kind of type rating scholarship.

NovemberBravo 05-30-2019 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2828843)
That’s what I was getting at. OP stated they went to the regionals
First. Even if hired at 250, in less than 900 hours, you were picked up by a major and typed twice?

Only way is the intern thing or some kind of type rating scholarship.

Maternity/ or some type of FMLA leave could also help account for the low hrs. Or we’re getting trolled.

tonsterboy5 05-30-2019 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 2828898)
Maternity/ or some type of FMLA leave could also help account for the low hrs. Or we’re getting trolled.

I’m betting it’s a troll, she has multiple types but none on a regional plane yet she started at a “regional” has 3 jet types yet total jet time is under 200? Did she the get the type in the sim and leave each company shortly after? It just doesn’t make sense.

Flygirl757 05-30-2019 11:54 AM

Partly correct. There was some maternity leave. I was an instructor at the major, got typed and flew a little bit before leaving.

word302 05-30-2019 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828930)
Partly correct. There was some maternity leave. I was an instructor at the major, got typed and flew a little bit before leaving.

What major?

rickair7777 05-30-2019 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2828929)
I’m betting it’s a troll, she has multiple types but none on a regional plane yet she started at a “regional” has 3 jet types yet total jet time is under 200? Did she the get the type in the sim and leave each company shortly after? It just doesn’t make sense.

FO's didn't need or get types back in the day (15+ years ago). You were a non-typed commercial pilot, minimum time to get hired could be as low as 200-400 hours with pay-to-play.

tonsterboy5 05-30-2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2828986)
FO's didn't need or get types back in the day (15+ years ago). You were a non-typed commercial pilot, minimum time to get hired could be as low as 200-400 hours with pay-to-play.

Back when it took 3000 hrs and 1000 multi before a regional would touch someone? Or is that just a myth all the old timers tell?

rickair7777 05-30-2019 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2828989)
Back when it took 3000 hrs and 1000 multi before a regional would touch someone? Or is that just a myth all the old timers tell?

Off the street was 2500/500 for the better commuters, 1500/300 for the rest. That was competitive, min to apply was usually 1000/200.

Pay-to-play would go as low as 200-400. Or possibly with an internship or internal hire.

The ATP rule was intended to ensure that the "traditional" standard (which existed for a reason) was not undercut by creative managers with pay-to-play schemes.

Flyboy68 05-30-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828605)
Types in 757, 767, 320, and BE400A.

1200 TT, 750 turbine, 160 jet.

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Flyboy68 05-30-2019 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2828989)
Back when it took 3000 hrs and 1000 multi before a regional would touch someone? Or is that just a myth all the old timers tell?

Wish it was, but unfortunately it’s not.

Paid2fly 05-30-2019 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2828961)
What major?






I'm thinking "major" TROLL!;)

rswitz 06-06-2019 05:30 AM

Hey guys I have 26 type ratings and was a commander on the space shuttle, 900 TT, 14 Multi, what's the mins for gojet?

bitwiser 06-06-2019 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by rswitz (Post 2832681)
Hey guys I have 26 type ratings and was a commander on the space shuttle, 900 TT, 14 Multi, what's the mins for gojet?


Sorry your space shuttle time isn't going to count since it's technically all glider time except for a few minutes. Maybe think about instructing in a 172 for a while.

TransWorld 06-10-2019 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by bitwiser (Post 2832736)
Sorry your space shuttle time isn't going to count since it's technically all glider time except for a few minutes. Maybe think about instructing in a 172 for a while.

What if he was a fighter test pilot for a major aircraft manufacturer. Would that count?:D

navigatro 06-10-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Flygirl757 (Post 2828930)
Partly correct. There was some maternity leave. I was an instructor at the major, got typed and flew a little bit before leaving.

this is the most unbelievable part of your story.

rickair7777 06-10-2019 10:38 AM

The OP explained her background to me, and it's entirely plausible. Some airlines employ non-line sim instructors. So knock it off.


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