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Old 07-28-2019 | 10:10 AM
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Hello,

I’m looking for some advice on which regional you guys would pick if you could change and start your career over? Are you happy with your current regional. Or which one would you pick now? I really have no preference on where I live or what major airline I end up with. Just looking for advice on what I should be prioritizing. It seems to me the regionals with the most flying have less security (no guaranteed flows) but you are getting more hours? What is more important for getting to a major, a flow or a lot of hours to make yourself marketable? Thank you.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ben27x
Hello,

I’m looking for some advice on which regional you guys would pick if you could change and start your career over? Are you happy with your current regional. Or which one would you pick now? I really have no preference on where I live or what major airline I end up with. Just looking for advice on what I should be prioritizing. It seems to me the regionals with the most flying have less security (no guaranteed flows) but you are getting more hours? What is more important for getting to a major, a flow or a lot of hours to make yourself marketable? Thank you.
PSA has a real good mix of decent pay, schedule flexibility and great QOL once you have a little bit of seniority and flow.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 11:47 AM
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There isn't ONE answer to your question for everybody. The right answer depends on your own geographic or social constraints, your aspirations, your risk tolerance, your prior experience.... A whole multitude of variables.

For example, the regional where you can progress most quickly might have cr@ppy pay and work rules and overall quality of life, but it may get you too the majors years before a regional that you would find preferable if another economic downturn trapped you at a regional for a decade.

'Flow' generally is a sucker play, like the house edge on slot machines, the extended warranty, or that true coat they put on at the factory, but if you've got three DUIs, four training failures, a FAR violation or two, and a breaking and entering conviction, cr@ppy though it is, it may be your ONLY possibility of getting to the majors.

Everyone's situation is different.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
There isn't ONE answer to your question for everybody. The right answer depends on your own geographic or social constraints, your aspirations, your risk tolerance, your prior experience.... A whole multitude of variables.

For example, the regional where you can progress most quickly might have cr@ppy pay and work rules and overall quality of life, but it may get you too the majors years before a regional that you would find preferable if another economic downturn trapped you at a regional for a decade.

'Flow' generally is a sucker play, like the house edge on slot machines, the extended warranty, or that true coat they put on at the factory, but if you've got three DUIs, four training failures, a FAR violation or two, and a breaking and entering conviction, cr@ppy though it is, it may be your ONLY possibility of getting to the majors.

Everyone's situation is different.
This argument about the flow is simply false. The WOs don't hire those guys any more.
There was a bunch who got in around 2016 when they hired pretty much anyone, but those days are long gone.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 12:50 PM
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Old 07-28-2019 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
This argument about the flow is simply false. The WOs don't hire those guys any more.
There was a bunch who got in around 2016 when they hired pretty much anyone, but those days are long gone.
I know someone with multiple training failures who got rejected from a WO, went to another regional for about a year, and then got hired on by the original WO. Maybe they're not taking the most egregious cases but they're still taking people who would likely really struggle to get a call from mainline.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
I know someone with multiple training failures who got rejected from a WO, went to another regional for about a year, and then got hired on by the original WO. Maybe they're not taking the most egregious cases but they're still taking people who would likely really struggle to get a call from mainline.
A recent 121 training event plus recurrent does help a lot. But going back to the post i replied to, convictions etc are a no go.
And with 5 or more failures, they wont take you at a WO. That's when you get stuck at RAH etc.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
A recent 121 training event plus recurrent does help a lot. But going back to the post i replied to, convictions etc are a no go.
And with 5 or more failures, they wont take you at a WO. That's when you get stuck at RAH etc.
You seem butt hurt about YX. Couldn’t pass the interview or what?
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Old 07-28-2019 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
You seem butt hurt about YX. Couldn’t pass the interview or what?
I did, want a copy of my CJO? RAH interview was a total joke.
The only pilot I know with 8 checkride failures is at YX.
And the only pilot I know who 100% falsified his logbooks, and got fired from his previous shop because of it, and lied about it, is at YX. He's a real winner. Got fired from FAA ATC before he started flying. He is very vocal on your union FB site, and doesn't use his real last name on his FB profile. I think most YX guys know him by now.

So I just have a problem when people paint WOs with that brush. Every airline has a share of their winners. WO's are more selective today than many others.
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Old 07-28-2019 | 02:28 PM
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ohh please do tell. There is one a-hole on there who loves to argue that you shouldn't tip van drivers, even if they handle your luggage. I bet you that is him.
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