Thank God you are here to point out how the government has been violating the Constitution for the last 2 centuries. I'm sure there aren't any Supreme Court rulings related to it. Guess you better get your buddies together and overthrow the government.

Have YOU ever heard of the Air Commerce Act and the Necessary and Proper Clause? Might want to give McCulloch vs. Maryland a read which gives the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the clause.

Further there is case law of which the name deceives me at the moment (United States vs. Cosby, maybe?), that establishes that land owners do not own the airspace above their property “to the heavens” (making it Federal airspace to be overseen by a federal regulatory body). To be fair, the case law further stated that the government could not seize to ground level without compensation.

Sure. I paraphrased them a few posts back.

The ELECTED government is generally considered to be expressing the will of the people when it does stuff not specified in the constitution. As long as it's not in violation of said constitution.

Privatized ATC? lol, worst idea ever. This thread has officially jumped the shark.

This thread could be renamed, "What to expect when you fly with that captain".

Doesn't matter what SCOTUS rules if they rule in violation to the Constitution. They are not infallible.

I don't think you have read McCulloch v Maryland. I have no problem with the holding (other than the fact that it supported the central bank at the time... a central bank is unconstitutional)


I disagree with that, and I also disagree with the idea that you don't own the dirt beneath your property either. Both are absurd and an abomination to property rights.

Except that the 9th and 10th Amendments specifically say that unless a specific action is enumerated in the Constitution, then the federal government isn't allowed to do it.

So if it isn't one of the powers granted to the federal governments by the state governments listed in Art I, Sec 8, then it is by default unconstitutional.

But it says those rights belong to the people... who can (and do) delegate them to their elected reps (state or federal).

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