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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:31 PM
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As some would say, I am on of those low time pilots who don’t deserve to be in the cockpit of anything with more than two blades pulling it (and some would dispute even that) 750TT/60. I understand that this is a common thought among the more experienced guys, and maybe it should be; that's not my question.

My question is how bad is this pouring over into the CRM and the social aspect of things on the job? I was talking to one of the examiners here recently and he told me that one of the CFI's from another University is about to quit his newly acquired airline job because everyone hates him because he was so low time at hire. It could be distorted and he just sucks as a person....I have no idea. He complains of things like; The crew goes out to eat...the FO isn't invited. I am just wondering, has anyone seen the "screw the newbie" attitude reflected in the cockpit and on overnights? I'm sure people think it, but are they acting on it? If I do get the job that I am actively seeking am I going to be unanimously hated by everyone because I have three digits worth of flight time at hire instead of four or five?

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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blcampbell
I am just wondering, has anyone seen the "screw the newbie" attitude reflected in the cockpit on overnights?
Naw, it's usually more like "screw the Flight Attendant" hehe...;-P

But seriously, I was a 500TT new-hire and have only run into one or two CA's that were anything less than super-awesome to fly with...I've had a blast on nearly every trip I can remember!
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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:40 PM
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Naw, it's usually more like "screw the Flight Attendant" hehe...;-P

But seriously, I was a 500TT new-hire and have only run into one or two CA's that were anything less than super-awesome to fly with...I've had a blast on nearly every trip I can remember!
Which airline are you with if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:41 PM
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If nothing else it proves beyond reasonable doubt pilots ARE idiots. The low flight times the airlines are hiring at right now are what they ALWAYS should have been hiring at with respect to what they PAY. They don't deserve anything more than a new pilot- and they never have.

I would do what you have to do man, in 1 year nobody will give a crap.
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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:47 PM
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I was a low-timer at TSA and didn't experience any alienation from crews because of it. Just fly the plane and don't bring up your experience unless somebody asks.
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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:48 PM
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why are you making excuses for your low time? Every pilot at one time or another was at 700 and 50. Just because 95% of the people on here are full of S _ _ T doesn't mean the people you fly with will be. 95% of the people you fly with are awesome!!!
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Old 05-09-2007 | 05:57 PM
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so what are everyone's personal definitions of a low time pilot?

Also, how long ago and what were your times when you got hired
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Old 05-09-2007 | 06:13 PM
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you better hope ellen is off for the night. your times are fine good luck to you
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Old 05-09-2007 | 06:31 PM
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"Just because 95% of the people on here are full of S _ _ T doesn't mean the people you fly with will be."

This site is a cross section of the industry...

If you think 95% of the folks here are full of S_ _T, then I'd suggest you find someplace else to spend your free time.
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Old 05-09-2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
If you think 95% of the folks here are full of S_ _T, then I'd suggest you find someplace else to spend your free time.
Good suggestion. The computer screen gives us great annonomity. I wonder what it would be like sitting down over a gourmet meal and wine with some of the more controversial members of this group. We would probably discover that all are quite civilized and capable of rational discussion.

Throwing rocks in a glass house is easy on the computer.

EDIT: I'm sorry. Shoud have included Foodies - a person who has a special interest in food, even foods that a self-identified gourmet would turn his or her nose up at.

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