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RabidW0mbat 01-21-2020 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by toolowgoaround (Post 2960340)
Anyone have a PIREP for Safelog?

I’m extremely happy with safelog. It takes a bit of effort to set it up to work for you, but the whole garbage in, garbage or saying comes to mind. Once you have the setup done, logging is pretty straightforward and customizable. I can give you a code for a discount if you’re interested, just shoot me a pm. I used LBP before and was not happy with the interface.

Propeller 01-21-2020 08:09 AM

I have been using the mccpilotlog free version for about a year now and I'm actually glad this whole situation happened before I paid for anything. I'm a few months behind now that I've been in limbo on switching logbook software. Does anyone know if safelog or any other alternatives work to pull info from Envoy's system?

RabidW0mbat 01-21-2020 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Propeller (Post 2961034)
I have been using the mccpilotlog free version for about a year now and I'm actually glad this whole situation happened before I paid for anything. I'm a few months behind now that I've been in limbo on switching logbook software. Does anyone know if safelog or any other alternatives work to pull info from Envoy's system?

what’s envoys system? Per Safelog it supports AIMS, Flica, Skedplus, Crewlink, Crewdock, and CrewConneX. Roster Buster and similar are supported according to the support docs for Safelog.


Heres a Safelog referral link if anyone wants to go for it. Full stop, I get an extension, and you would get some extra time as well.

http://www.safelogweb.com/PilotTellA...52aXRlcj10cnVl

Cyio 01-21-2020 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 2961181)
what’s envoys system? Per Safelog it supports AIMS, Flica, Skedplus, Crewlink, Crewdock, and CrewConneX. Roster Buster and similar are supported according to the support docs for Safelog.


Heres a Safelog referral link if anyone wants to go for it. Full stop, I get an extension, and you would get some extra time as well.

http://www.safelogweb.com/PilotTellA...52aXRlcj10cnVl

Envoy is virtually the only system in the world that cant be pulled from. You will have to do it manually.

highfarfast 01-21-2020 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2961472)
Envoy is virtually the only system in the world that cant be pulled from. You will have to do it manually.

While I’m sure it has more to do with apathy from those that could make it happen, I can’t help but think it’s intentional to make it more difficult for pilots at Envoy to keep their apps up to date find a better job.

JohnnyBekkestad 01-22-2020 03:34 PM

I used MCCPilotLog for the last 10 years and have been very happy with it, then they introduced the new version 5 where they tried to get rid of the 32bit ecosystem. They released the platform way too early and without any testing that i can see. And i believe they felt they needed to release it since they have been promising a release since 2015.
The new version was a disaster, however, the old one still worked and unless you were in a desperate need to print your logbook, for an interview etc..., there was no real need to stress. Just wait it out and get it when its fixed. They eventually fixed it well enough for it to work, there are still some minor bugs, but those are easily handled by a few extra clicks once in a blue moon.
The new version DOES NOT allow you do download the schedule from the computer and their response to that is that they are trying to keep the roster very streamlined and trying to limit the number of ways to get it so that they do not have to maintain multiple interfaces, makes sense and is not a big deal.
I go to my iPhone, download my roster and i choose to update each flight once i have my OOOI times. Takes me 20seconds to do. And i use the desktop app to pull reports and print the logbook.

I was very unhappy with the PilotLog software, but now its working good enough for me to use it again.

motiveflo 01-25-2020 10:59 PM

I wish this was the case. Neither the old software nor the new one will pull data from my airline.... and their support is non existent.... STAY AWAY!


Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 2962105)
I used MCCPilotLog for the last 10 years and have been very happy with it, then they introduced the new version 5 where they tried to get rid of the 32bit ecosystem. They released the platform way too early and without any testing that i can see. And i believe they felt they needed to release it since they have been promising a release since 2015.
The new version was a disaster, however, the old one still worked and unless you were in a desperate need to print your logbook, for an interview etc..., there was no real need to stress. Just wait it out and get it when its fixed. They eventually fixed it well enough for it to work, there are still some minor bugs, but those are easily handled by a few extra clicks once in a blue moon.
The new version DOES NOT allow you do download the schedule from the computer and their response to that is that they are trying to keep the roster very streamlined and trying to limit the number of ways to get it so that they do not have to maintain multiple interfaces, makes sense and is not a big deal.
I go to my iPhone, download my roster and i choose to update each flight once i have my OOOI times. Takes me 20seconds to do. And i use the desktop app to pull reports and print the logbook.

I was very unhappy with the PilotLog software, but now its working good enough for me to use it again.


JohnnyBekkestad 01-27-2020 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by motiveflo (Post 2964396)
I wish this was the case. Neither the old software nor the new one will pull data from my airline.... and their support is non existent.... STAY AWAY!

EDIT: Looking at the original post i see you work for Alaska, they use Flica and i have friends at Endeavor who uses it. Are you sure you are not doing it wrong?

hubbs 01-27-2020 12:31 PM

My airline uses AIMS and I have only successfully been able to download past flights once. It just hangs at the login page. For some reason, it is able to fetch the roster for the future.

Their customer service used to be pretty responsive, but in the last month or so it has gotten bad.

Makes me regret paying for a lifetime MCC licence, and then paying for the new crew lounge licence.

trip 07-07-2020 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 2961181)
what’s envoys system? Per Safelog it supports AIMS, Flica, Skedplus, Crewlink, Crewdock, and CrewConneX. Roster Buster and similar are supported according to the support docs for Safelog.


Heres a Safelog referral link if anyone wants to go for it. Full stop, I get an extension, and you would get some extra time as well.

Safelog Special Bonus Offer

Does anyone have a new voucher for Safelog, thinking of giving it a go as MCC is not long for this world.


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