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Bruno82 07-09-2020 06:31 AM

I have mccPilotLog, but am trying to decide whether to by CrewLounge. Is there a way to try the new software?


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LoneStar32 07-09-2020 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 3088562)
I have mccPilotLog, but am trying to decide whether to by CrewLounge. Is there a way to try the new software?


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Not sure, here is the new website though: https://crewlounge.aero/

trip 07-09-2020 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bruno82 (Post 3088562)
I have mccPilotLog, but am trying to decide whether to by CrewLounge. Is there a way to try the new software?


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Download the free version here. If you want to move your hours over and MCC license it will make you buy another three years.
https://pilotlog.crewlounge.aero/pricing/

trip 07-09-2020 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3088391)
You can only sync from mobile, too many issues doing it from PC. Works fine, import on phone or ipad then sync. Yur desktop version will sync with that. I admit, even for my airline the roster/trip import worked better with MCC. But there arn't many better alternatives out there if you use a PC. Like you saw with Safelog,they all kind of suck.

Yep I got it synced up now by using mobile first.

Cujo665 07-09-2020 09:04 AM

LogbookPro has been excellent about honoring and supporting the legacy original lifetime version of the software. It doesn't get new features like the newer subscription one, but it remains fully functional and supported. It also plays well with all their newer PDA apps like the new LogbookPro and Airline Pilot Daily Logbook.
If you are an active 121 line pilot I highly recommend the APDL app. It imports schedules from most platforms like Sabre, AIMS and FLICA. It monitors your 117 FTDT with warnings when stuff is getting close. Lets you play "what if" FTDT checking for trip trades, calculates your per diem, and if you take the time to set up all your different pay rules it will calculate your pay as well.
When I was flying lines with 2-5 flights a day, frequent reassignments, lost days and all that stuff APDL was indispensable. I did program most of our work rates/rules so anytime my pay was more than about 5-10 bucks off I knew they messed up.

They're website for all products is https://a.nc-software.com/aw.aspx?A=271


They also have an affiliate program. If you refer anybody you get credit or pay. It's the same price either way, so find another pilot and throw them a bone by clicking their link to buy go order/buy it.

Swakid8 07-09-2020 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3088653)
LogbookPro has been excellent about honoring and supporting the legacy original lifetime version of the software. It doesn't get new features like the newer subscription one, but it remains fully functional and supported. It also plays well with all their newer PDA apps like the new LogbookPro and Airline Pilot Daily Logbook.
If you are an active 121 line pilot I highly recommend the APDL app. It imports schedules from most platforms like Sabre, AIMS and FLICA. It monitors your 117 FTDT with warnings when stuff is getting close. Lets you play "what if" FTDT checking for trip trades, calculates your per diem, and if you take the time to set up all your different pay rules it will calculate your pay as well.
When I was flying lines with 2-5 flights a day, frequent reassignments, lost days and all that stuff APDL was indispensable. I did program most of our work rates/rules so anytime my pay was more than about 5-10 bucks off I knew they messed up.

They're website for all products is https://a.nc-software.com/aw.aspx?A=271


They also have an affiliate program. If you refer anybody you get credit or pay. It's the same price either way, so find another pilot and throw them a bone by clicking their link to buy go order/buy it.

The biggest thing that APDL is missing is the ability to sync to logbook pro directly. Even though it’s a easy process to export my trips into a CSV format then import the CSV into logbook pro. I just wish there was seemless sync like logten pro.

JohnnyBekkestad 07-09-2020 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3088653)
LogbookPro has been excellent about honoring and supporting the legacy original lifetime version of the software. It doesn't get new features like the newer subscription one, but it remains fully functional and supported. It also plays well with all their newer PDA apps like the new LogbookPro and Airline Pilot Daily Logbook.
If you are an active 121 line pilot I highly recommend the APDL app. It imports schedules from most platforms like Sabre, AIMS and FLICA. It monitors your 117 FTDT with warnings when stuff is getting close. Lets you play "what if" FTDT checking for trip trades, calculates your per diem, and if you take the time to set up all your different pay rules it will calculate your pay as well.
When I was flying lines with 2-5 flights a day, frequent reassignments, lost days and all that stuff APDL was indispensable. I did program most of our work rates/rules so anytime my pay was more than about 5-10 bucks off I knew they messed up.

They're website for all products is https://a.nc-software.com/aw.aspx?A=271


They also have an affiliate program. If you refer anybody you get credit or pay. It's the same price either way, so find another pilot and throw them a bone by clicking their link to buy go order/buy it.

You can do this with the old MCCPilot Log, however...
This will only be true until you are forced to upgrade your OS to an unsupported version regardless of provider...). Happens all the time, all software have an end of life date.

dhc8guru 07-10-2020 11:03 AM

The old MCC still works fine, I don't have any bugs (anymore). I'll keep using it because for one it works and two, for all I know, in a few months I may not have a job. At which point, I'll copy my electronic logbook to my old handwritten one and toss it in a safe deposit box.

Sperrysan 07-10-2020 12:34 PM

Smart Logbook for android users is pretty good for a one time fee. Easy to use, backup, and produce reports.

UncreativeUser 07-14-2020 05:40 AM

APDL has serious syncing problems that I think stem way beyond fixing. It’s a great too for airline pilots, but not a great logbook tools in itself. Their duty calculator is cute but I really don’t see the point in it as most airlines have software that prevents this from happening anyways, to the point where it’s glaringly obvious if they try to pull something that you won’t need to pay for a 130$ duty calculator when you can just simply look and see that they scheduled you before your 10 hour rest


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