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MBM1 05-14-2007 06:34 AM

Training Environment
 
Would you guys/gals tell me about the training environment and different stages in the Regional’s I hear it’s different for each Airline… any truth to that. :confused:
Thanks in advance

AV8ER 05-14-2007 07:39 AM

TSA is pretty tough. My class only had about 50% make it through. I heard though that some of the recent classes are having better luck though...maybe standards were lowered, I don't know. It was pretty much a sink or swim environment when I went through.

MBM1 05-14-2007 08:23 AM

Thanks for the info, I guess i have my work cut out for me.

captchris 05-14-2007 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by MBM1 (Post 165400)
Would you guys/gals tell me about the training environment and different stages in the Regional’s I hear it’s different for each Airline… any truth to that. :confused:
Thanks in advance

Everything you need to know....

https://www.alpa.org/alpa/DesktopMod...DocumentID=421

MBM1 05-14-2007 09:08 AM

Capt. Chris I owe you one.... what an awsome site. Thank you so much!

mregan 05-14-2007 09:12 AM

Great article Captchris......thank you. How difficult was the training at AWAC?? Were the instructors helpful????

captchris 05-14-2007 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by mregan (Post 165474)
Great article Captchris......thank you. How difficult was the training at AWAC?? Were the instructors helpful????

Training at AWAC is awesome. Just show up, soak as much of it up as you can, have a good attitude, and you'll get through! The instructors are awesome... the guys we have down at the training center now were all involved in my initial training and all did a great job.

That article says it all though---attitude is everything. Good attitude=no problems...The only think you really need to be able to do is fly in the IFR system, the rest will come to you! Good luck this weekend!

rickair7777 05-15-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by AV8ER (Post 165436)
TSA is pretty tough. My class only had about 50% make it through. I heard though that some of the recent classes are having better luck though...maybe standards were lowered, I don't know. It was pretty much a sink or swim environment when I went through.

This is NOT typical, although a very few training programs are notorious for this sort of thing (mesa dash-8 for example). Most programs that hire relatively experienced pilots have a 10% wash rate. I understand that this increases somewhat with low-time new hires, but nothing like 50%.

captchris 05-15-2007 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 166045)
This is NOT typical, although a very few training programs are notorious for this sort of thing (mesa dash-8 for example). Most programs that hire relatively experienced pilots have a 10% wash rate. I understand that this increases somewhat with low-time new hires, but nothing like 50%.


I second that.... AWAC's washout rate is more like 2%. I think XJT has an excellent training dept. from what I've heard as well.

flynavyj 05-15-2007 02:48 PM

yeh, the december tsa class had some issues with that 50% washout rate, kinda crazy. Typical around TSA used to be below 10% from what i've been told, my class was 15%, and i've seen it bounce from 15-30 everyonce in a while. They do have a tougher program than most, and it's much more "sink, or swim" which leads to a question of why put up with it given the reward you get...find somewhere better to go.

Joepa84 05-15-2007 10:59 PM

I am new here and would like to find out why some airlines have such high washout rates. As someone who is looking to break in but, terrified of washign out, the whole TSA thing scares me. What needs to be done to ensure I am not a statistic and can become a successful member of society...(regional pilot.) Av8er feel free to pm.

flynavyj 05-16-2007 05:14 AM

joe, just got to a decent regional, and they'll do their best to help you get through. If you go to a low tier regional however, there's a higher chance that you might fall victim to a training nightmare. I don't quite understand how people failed the oral, it was tough but not impossible as long as you studied your butt off, and had your friends help you study your butt off more, but the sim is a different beast all together, one bad instructor and your S.O.L. it's all a matter of luck.


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