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Arturito 02-25-2020 01:01 PM

Aircraft owned by regionals
 
Hello everyone,

The latest TSA aircraft reshuffle to XJT and SKW got me wondering : what regional airline truly own their metal ?
Does owning your aircraft offer better protection to its pilot group ? (one contract can still be cancelled by the major)
If you have a list, or know how to get to that information, please let me know

Thanks

TheRaven 02-25-2020 01:06 PM

The plural of “aircraft” is “aircraft”........

rickair7777 02-25-2020 01:07 PM

Skywest mostly owns their own planes. This is typically good for the pilots because even if a contract cancels, or expires without being extended, management has a big incentive to find a new home for the planes in question. Also means that Skywest won't typically sign a three-year contract, since they're paying for the planes they want more assurance of long-term employment so the contracts are typically 10, 15, 20 years (I don't think they even like to do 10). That translates into longer-term employment stability without having to sweat it every couple of years when you contract is back up on the auction block.

All that said, try to avoid staying at the regionals long enough for any of this to matter.

JayBee 02-25-2020 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by TheRaven (Post 2983920)
The plural of “aircraft” is “aircraft”........

Amen.

Filler.

flightlessbirds 02-25-2020 01:33 PM

ZW owns their planes.

Swakid8 02-25-2020 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 2983945)
ZW owns their planes.



YX owns some of their own as well if I can recall. I think MESA owns some as well.


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amcnd 02-25-2020 05:53 PM

SkyWest jan 1, 2020

Owned (debit financed) =222
Leased = 44
owned outright (no debt) = 173
Partner owned = 44
Total 483

future

51 aircraft coming 2020.
12 aircraft 2021....

Blackhawk 02-26-2020 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2983923)
Skywest mostly owns their own planes. This is typically good for the pilots because even if a contract cancels, or expires without being extended, management has a big incentive to find a new home for the planes in question. Also means that Skywest won't typically sign a three-year contract, since they're paying for the planes they want more assurance of long-term employment so the contracts are typically 10, 15, 20 years (I don't think they even like to do 10). That translates into longer-term employment stability without having to sweat it every couple of years when you contract is back up on the auction block.

All that said, try to avoid staying at the regionals long enough for any of this to matter.

This.
Also, owning the airplanes is no guarantee. ASA owned many of their airframes. Those are the ones at SkyWest now with AS and EV tail numbers. Oh, and the ND tail number.

NovemberBravo 02-26-2020 08:08 AM

I believe Mesa owns or holds the lease to all the CRJs and United owns 40ish of our Ejets and we own 18-20 and financing the next 20 Ejets coming May.

Swakid8 02-26-2020 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2984454)
This.
Also, owning the airplanes is no guarantee. ASA owned many of their airframes. Those are the ones at SkyWest now with AS and EV tail numbers. Oh, and the ND tail number.

ASA was once a Delta WO at one time, until it was a sold to ExpressJet.


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