The great benefit of RJ's (especially 50's) is frequency. If you have 200 pax daily you can put them on 4x RJ flights and offer convenient frequency. One stretch narrowbody could carry all those people with a far lower CASM, but no schedule choice.

In normal times, frequency/convenience trumps the higher incremental cost of RJ's.

During the COVID recovery, not sure how that will play out. When they get to the point where they can mostly fill up a couple daily NB's, they might prefer to do that over more frequent RJ's... if the pax put up with it. They might put up with it for a while anyway.

I never understood the problem pax have with RJs. Any RJ I've ever flown in has been more comfortable than any NB main cabin. It probably has something to do with pax having a carryon crammed with 10 days worth of crap and then b**** about the overheads...:cool:

Quicker to board/deplane too. I’d rather be in a -200 than anywhere except an exit row or a premium seat on a 737.

Not being able to stand up straight is what bothers me most. I think 175 has the best of both worlds in terms of comfort on board and quick deplaning.

I wouldn't go that far. But give me an E170 over a NB any day of the week.

Yup. But I forgot to mention and have to leave some love for the 75. Last row is about 2 or 3 inches from the bulkhead and they still recline, practically first class :D

It has everything to do with this. God forbid they have to gate check their bag...

Hahaha. Yup. Just might be the easiest thing to do too. Everyone loves the one guy that has to go against the flow to get back up to the gate agent after failing.

referring to the -200 specifically
-AC does not work
- have to gate check their bag
-last 6 rows smell like the lav
-hit their head walking down the aisle if over 5'10"
-no wifi
-limited snack/service options

I flew the 200 for 3 years and even I hated being a pax on plane more than any other NB. always thought the crj-7/9 was a toss up with the 737/md80 and the 175 comparable to a 320/757. havent flown on a E145 in years

Gate checking is fine,what’s not is when the arrival station sends them to baggage claim just because. Had that happen multiple times at DGS stations over the past couple years


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It will be interesting to see what happens with DGS. Do you think the public will accept an airline that makes billions in profits use the company they created to get around union contracts and rules to clean the planes for minimum wage as fast as they can with a dust buster and an overall lack of cleaning products and as few as possible personnel?

That's one long sentence. Yes. The public doesn't care.

Gate checking is not fine. I commuted on NBs for 5 years and my luggage looked brand new. I commuted on RJs for less than a year and my frame is bent, the kickplate is destroyed and there are multiple tears in the fabric.
The process is not terrible and probably faster than overheads if you aren't in the first 10 rows.

I worked DGS for about a year a while back. They hired a bunch of firefighters to clean planes 3-4 nights a month in exchange for minimum wage and s3c flight benefits. It was an ok deal once we figured out how to work the nonrev system. All of us quit when they wanted 7 nights a month.

It taught me how nasty the back of a plane is and now I am the crazy person wiping down my entire seat with wipes everytime I get on a plane.

In all reality who is still hiring with all this going on?

Cargo companies and 135 operators. Going to be a long time before pax carriers hire again.

While they may be hiring, competition is fierce.

I got furloughed right after getting my ATP and first type rating. I've applied to over 100 jobs at this point, everything from single pilot 135 to pipeline patrol to right seat in a Pilatus to flight instruction. I have gotten a response from a handful of places, but nothing has panned out. it's definitely tough out there, and it's only going to get worse as there are more furloughs. starting to come to terms with the fact that I might not get a flying job for sometime

anyone have suggestions for what to do for the next 1-3 years? I'm at a complete loss and my only marketable skills are pushing buttons and flipping switches and warming the right seat of a 152

Look at systems operations jobs. Very very similar.
Think.
Rail Traffic Controller - CN. CP. BNSF. UP etc
Gas or electrical systems operator.

All CRM heavy, small crews, lots of inputs, operator focused.

Retrain, keep your chin up. By virtue of being a pilot you have demonstrated drive and aptitude

1. skydiving jobs
2. ISR jobs

Uncle Sam is always hiring. Enlist or OCS if you have a degree. Instead of drinking your pay stay current at a local flying activity/club on the side. Then you can check a veteran block when the market opens back up.

ISR jobs are going away too. The biggest player in the industry will be cutting many pilots at the end of the year, thus, those that are worried they are on the chopping block have already gotten employment elsewhere. The typical companies that ALWAYS have jobs postings, have not had one up for a while. Either way, same as everywhere, competition will be fierce. I'm afraid anyone without a current clearance and the ability to meet PIC requirements will not be in the running.

Lot of mil pilots who have gotten out over the past 3 years due to the hiring wave that are near the bottom of the seniority lists (therefore at furlough risk) who will get those ISR jobs over you. Most likely their security clearances are still good which is a big cost savings for the hiring company and means they can start much sooner.

security clearance expires 2 years after leaving a position in which its used. During that 2 years it’s considered inactive.

Fact.

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