10 pilots per plane
 

Before the massive attrition started, regionals were staffed up to about 10-11 pilots per plane. With hiring stopped almost everywhere, attrition and staffing will go back to pre-2014 levels. The current surplus covers the inactive pilots going through initial/upgrade training, that’s no longer needed.

Take your regional fleet count multiplied by 10 and that’s where your pilot size should get to after October when airlines can start furloughing.

The pilot shortage leverage is gone, be grateful about the contractual gains locked in during that time period and hold the line on concessions. The managements will certainly try and restart the whipsaw play. Prepare yourself once October hits.

cool story bro

Glad you liked it junior, getting ready for part II, “Alter Egos.”

I thought this thread was going to be a joke like how may pilots does it take to change a light bulb?

The pilot shortage is not gone, it is on pause but it will be back. The Pandemic is not going to change the fact that the industry has a lot of pilots getting near retirement.

It depends on how bad the economy is damaged when all this is said and done. The longer this country waits to implement an NATIONWIDE law enforced shutdown, the worse we will all be suffering for a LONG time. Even when the music was playing purchasing an airline ticket was still a “luxury” for most Americans. With everyone being buried more and more into debt slavery as we continue on our current path, severe downsizing of the majors is inevitable.

The bonuses and higher FO pay was never there for the embry riddle kids. Those types were always willing to work for $22/hr. The bonuses were there to pull in pilots from other regionals or aviation segments as there wasn’t enough embry riddle kids out there.

Now we have plenty of embry riddle kids in the pipeline as their mainline parents got them in once the industry recovered, pilot shortage solved no need for higher FO pay so you guys better fight to hold onto it.

Every mainline captain has a son or daughter in flight school. Before 2013, mainline pilots told every kid they knew not to become pilots, which created the pilot shortage.

What third world country do you live in? In the USA, a $40 ticket on spirit ain’t no luxury.

But fleet sizes will shrink too. So take your current fleet size and reduce it by at least a fourth, then multiply by 10.

Things are going to be awfully tough...

Delta’s RJ count won’t shrink, it’s based on a hard 375 limit or something close to that, not a mainline fleet ratio like American’s.

Delta pilots historically are the first to bend over on scope concessions, maybe some Delta RJ growth. United and American will hold the line.

Delta management is also the most ruthless with RJ operators.

Why are you flying?! You should be in management!!! Haha