The true demise of our society...Justin Bieber and social media. When I was in public safety we never had these dumb challenges,or the “thank me for my service” mentality. We just did our jobs,collected a check and went home.


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I haven’t noticed “Backpack toting millennials”. You know everything is closed right? Even beaches? There’s nothing to do anywhere. No one is going on vacation, and you’re spreading stuff you probably read on Facebook because you guys just love to hate on a specific generation for whatever reason. It’s almost like a fetish for you guys how obsessed you are.

I think the people that are flying saw cheap airfare and are visiting family at their homes. I fly for a mostly business traveler airline and I haven’t seen business travelers....

No one has told me they are a doctor or nurse in the conversations I’ve had, and none have been in scrubs....

Congress is, and has been, in recess. And will be until at least May 4th.

The vast majority of the flying we are doing is not essential. If it was, they would fly one flight between city pairs a day, and not lower prices. Because the demand is there for people that “have to fly” and the cheap tickets are only going to pull out those who really don’t.


Justify what we’re doing however you must, but the facts paint the picture that we’re flying mostly people who don’t need to be flying, surely spreading the virus and allowing people to go against CDC guidelines to the greatest extent possible: flying across the country packed in close quarters with strangers from all over.

Just terrible. I miss the days of people just posting a nice sunset picture with an inspirational quote.

It is the human condition. Social media is bringing to light what would otherwise be an insidious undercurrent. All you see and despise on social media has existed for a long time within people. The false sense of security produced by the veil of a Facebook interface brings out people’s narcissistic proclivities.
...Something they would be trying to hide in real social interaction with varying success.

I've definitely had congress critters because they tell us when they're on board... seem to be transiting between DC and home districts.

Also have younger, hipper looking people obviously geared up for some sort of excursion. Personally I'm just fine with that, they're probably doing something outdoors (zero risk to anyone).

The rest are professional looking people, presumably on some business or other, I give them the benefit of the doubt that they're essential.

Loads have been higher last week than in the few prior weeks. Not high by any means but higher, maybe all due to schedule reductions.

Or we could just ban all travel without prior government approval, requested in triplicate, with a $150 non-refundable filing fee, 120 days in advance. Would kind of suck if you're in a crowded hospital and the extra staff shifts had to wait for approval to travel.

Truth. Reminds me, my captain once told me, I hope one day I don't have a trip with a type A feminist. The stewardess has no place in my cockpit. I already deal with enough complainers and whiners. :)

You’re picking on millennials but the only people I know planning travel right now is my 60 year old mother and her 3 sisters. They’re “going crazy” being stuck at home and are heading to Vegas. I see way more white haired folks in these west coast airports than I do young ones.

Anyways, Millennials have grown up with 9/11, recession, 20 years of war, high education and housing costs, and now this. Give us a break man.

Trigger much? Not picking on anyone, that's just what I see at the airport. As I said I don't blame them, or have a problem with it. I'm not an advocate of the lockdowns.

They can force our country to fight endless wars and crash our economy with extremely reckless financial behavior, but gosh darn it you eat avocado toast. That’s a mortal sin. Here’s some endless college debt as punishment.

Man-buns, vaping, and being dorky for the sake of “irony”.........means you get no breaks from us.

Hair styles, less deadly nicotine inhalation, and personal image (really should fall in the same category as man bun but I’ll let you have it). Nice!

older generations scorn the younger generations, and vice versa. I’m Gen X, and we thought the boomers were lame, and they thought we were the slackers who were ruining the world. Now that we are in our 40’s....we think the same of millennials and Gen Z. You will do the same.


*as for the “endless college debt”.....that’s optional. And you can blame greedy institutions more than a generation of people who lived before you.

Agreed, no heroes in the pilot ranks right now. The only thing I’ve seen that’s close is cargo pilots. They are the only ones flying to China right now and bringing home our daily life-saving/life-improving medications (heart meds, diabetes, purple pills, etc). Normally not heroic, but when you consider the conditions, it is admirable - increased chance of infection, highly intrusive swab testing by questionably trained Chinese techs, locked down in layover hotel rooms for days on end, food options extremely limited, constant revisions, extended trips and the granddaddy of all- a possible “positive” test while in China and being dragged off to a government quarantine center....

yeah, college debt is nothing new and nothing is forcing you to got to a 50,000 a semester college to get a degree in gender studies. It's more of an issue of people getting useless degrees then anything else.

weird use of quotation marks there

College debt is nothing new. $60,000 tuition certainly is.

I have to say, someone not knowing basic grammar and knocking any type of higher education makes my insides fuzzy

$60,000 tuition without a scholarship is a choice, just like all the worthless degrees you millennials like to get. There are many fine collages, especially if you take in state tuition, that you can attend that won't cost you an arm and a leg. But that would be too "obvious" so you go the more obscure unnecessary/expensive route because you want to be "different". Then you complain when you are still living with mom at 26 and blame it on participation trophies or whatever because it is never your fault. You'll get over the grammar, it is an internet message board dude chill out. Plus when somebody brings it up it is the first sign they know they lost an argument. :)

College*

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Flying a 170 at 40 is the living in your parents basement at 26 of the airline world.

I personally think the boomers ruined the world.

holy generalization batman.

the six most common degrees are in business, nursing, psychology, biology, engineering, and education. very few get degrees in basket weaving. in any case, college is far more expensive (even at state schools) than it was for boomers, rent is far more expensive than it was for boomers, home ownership is more expensive than it was for boomers, healthcare is more expensive than it was for boomers, and pay for graduates is lower than it was for boomers. objectively, millennials get paid less for the same work, and have to pay more for a comparable standard of living.

but ya, millennials deserve it cause they are quirky and like things that you don't like

boomers just don't want to admit how much easier they had it

Have you ever looked into how much state schools cost? Most are close to 20k a year when you include living costs

With the new lost decade coming you are going to learn exactly what it is like.

maybe you should've gotten a more useful degree

Already had a full career in the degree I got, son. And I can go back anytime and make 6 figures if I choose. Thanks or your concern though.

Maybe I’ve just been very confused and the 170 now has a side stick, idk. Would explain the landings.

So what you’re saying is you wasted a bunch of money on a degree you aren’t using?

In October, you’ll be trading in that side stick for the old ram-horns again. I will, too

On the contrary, I am secure for the rest of my life because of it no matter what happens to the airline industry. The investment has paid for itself many times over. That's what happens when one makes smart decisions in life. It gives them the security to pursue their dreams later on if that is the road they want to take.

btw, nobody believes you fly for anything other than a Regional. 2020 ID and you spend 90% of your time on the Regional boards.

My plan b also has a stick, but it’s a bit more basic. It’ll work out in the end

Old habits die hard, I guess.

Seniority is king. I’ve got my degree to fall back on too, but you seem to be arguing against that. I thought it was a good decision, but I don’t know what to believe anymore!

It matters what degree you got. Maybe surprisingly you chose wisely.

Lonestar32, the litmus test of wise decisions

You guys forget that we are on the same team. No one is responsible for anything merely by virtue of their birth year.

Here’s a tip for you: If you have enough time to go on forums and blame another generation for your troubles, you’re probably part of the problem. Doing so is the opposite of taking responsibility.

listen son, you cant call other people out for spending all their time on these boards when you do exactly the same thing

90 percent of his time on the boards on the Regional side, 10 percent elsewhere. Not 90% of his total time. Lighten up there Francis.

You must not be taking inflation into consideration.

I thought your parents didn’t want you to be a pilot?

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/c...ome-pilot.html

busted!

filler

Not to be condescending, but...after inflation, nearly every mentioned item is far more expensive today than for boomers.

Says he’s 17 as of February 2020.