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Old 05-23-2007 | 10:50 AM
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Question Frasca simchecks.

Ok well here is the deal, i'm currently at flight safety academy enrrolled in their advance airline track. I heard that many airlines use the frasca 142? for their simchecks. I have also heard from pilots that it sucks. Big time. My question is , does anyone here know of a place where I can get time on a frasca 142 or have any tips? And how true is it about the frasca.

I sure don't want to blow up my simcheck , you know .

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Old 05-23-2007 | 10:56 AM
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Where are you? There are frascas around the country that you can rent by the hour. Call around to local flight schools and see if they have one. I know there are a few in Seattle. If you have an interview scheduled, see where the sim ride is going to be and see if you can fly it for an hour or so the day before.

And, yes. Flying a Frasca sucks.
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Old 05-23-2007 | 10:59 AM
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Some do, some don't. Might also depend on what type of experience you have when you go into the interview (for example, CHQ requires sim evals for CFIs and other low time pilots, but not for most folks with prior 135/121 experience).

If you live near a major city, odds are there is a school with either an AST or Frasca simulator. Call around and find one to "fly."

When you're in the sim, remember to fly more using control performance. Figure out what attitude gives you level flight. Reference that, and then revert back to primary/secondary to get what you want for each maneuver. Also remember that the sim is very sensitive. 2 finger flying is very important. Make very minor adjustments, and then wait a second to see what happens before inputting another command. Otherwise you'll end up chasing needles.
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Old 05-23-2007 | 02:28 PM
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West Air in Las vegas had a Fresca, I work there. They don't suck that bad........ with practice. Let me add though, I have a lot of time in that fresca sim and for my sim eval at the airline I interviewed they put me in a full motion CRJ700 sim.... IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THE FRESCA. In fact it was very difficult.

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Old 05-23-2007 | 02:42 PM
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In SoCal

Frasca 141 at SBA (Red Baron)
Frasca 131 at SNA (Sunrise)
Frasca ? at SMO (I'm told in constant disrepair)


I used the first two to practice for interview
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Old 05-23-2007 | 03:42 PM
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frasca simchecks do sucks, im up for my check in 2 weeks and just to get it to hold alt is a pain, ive flown the crj sim and is not as a sensitive as the frasca one... the control loading can be manipulated so from place to place it changes, just keep your scan and be light on the hands.
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Old 05-23-2007 | 04:09 PM
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Only the crappy regionals use a Frasca for their sim eval.

Real airlines like ASA use a Level D on MOTION. Can you believe it...MOTION!!!!
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Old 05-23-2007 | 04:11 PM
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Oh, and in repsonse to your original question, doesn't FSI have a seneca frasca next to the ERJ sim?
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Old 05-23-2007 | 06:02 PM
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I would recomend getting an interview first, then worry about the sim prep...for almost every airline interview sim check there are one or more companies which provide tailored training using the same sim and the exact profiles used by the airline. Since you mentioned the frasca I suspect you're talking about SKW? There's a guy at SNA and a company in SLC that do SKW prep.

If you're job hunting you do want to keep somewhat instrument current, but you can use any really cheap sim, or just MS flight sim, to keep your scan and basic skills going.
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Old 05-24-2007 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by acey_striker
Oh, and in repsonse to your original question, doesn't FSI have a seneca frasca next to the ERJ sim?

the sim they got next to the erj is a saab. I still havent go on them . hopefully next week .
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