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ExperimentalAB 05-27-2007 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by spinproof (Post 171779)
No..these low time wonders need more training...overheard one the other day requesting a "full stop" at JFK!!!!!!!! he was quickly(between the laughter) reminded that all landings are "full stop" at JFK!:)

I reported to Knoxville Tower a few weeks ago (right after a student-pilot stumbled on the radio with a traffic-call LoL): "with you on the visual, full-stop..."

The Captain didn't find it too funny...! Nobody has any sense of humor anymore!!

ExperimentalAB 05-27-2007 08:03 PM

Don't forget these little bug-me-outs:

Comair 1234 Instruments to ATL
Slow to 250 "K" (too cool to say Knots, eh?)
The long-drawn-out Aaaaaand this is...(with every transmission)

flyandive 05-28-2007 06:59 AM

Not that I really care, but everytime someone says "with you" it has a similar effect with me of someone dragging their fingernails across a chalkboard.

...and I think this thread just got hijacked!

honk 05-29-2007 01:20 PM

I'm "with you" on that.

Billy32 05-29-2007 02:30 PM

How do you pick up your clearance?

I usually say " Good evening CLT Clearance, FLT-XXX, clearance to Mobile"

Or sometimes " FLT-XXX I'd like to pick up my IFR clearance to Mobile" *Only verbose when it is slow.

Is there a more proper way? I have never said instruments, however it is an IFR clearance. What is wrong with asking for you IFR clearance?

BlueMoon 05-29-2007 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Billy32 (Post 172636)
How do you pick up your clearance?

I usually say " Good evening CLT Clearance, FLT-XXX, clearance to Mobile"

Or sometimes " FLT-XXX I'd like to pick up my IFR to Mobile" *Only verbose when it is slow.

Is there a more proper way? I have never said instruments, however it is an IFR clearance. What is wrong with asking for you IFR clearance?

They are all IFR clearances

Billy32 05-29-2007 03:40 PM

So it is the redundant part that annoys you? Just trying to understand what is being said wrong. Most times I don't even listen to my FO when he is getting clearance, I am doing other things. I am just happy when I get an FO that doesn't scare me, screwing up a clearance request doesn't really bother me.

flyandive 05-29-2007 03:54 PM

Well the AIM doesn't offer a whole lot of guidance here but from the other side of window having done an ATC minor the callsign is the most important, the fact that you are IFR is very helpful but if you are an airliner it's pretty easy to assume that you are IFR so that goes without saying, and lastly the destination to verify that this is the correct flight plan. So callsign and destination are the important parts and if you are not flying an airliner it will definitly help to add the fact that you are IFR, in other words do I need to find a strip or make one? All you need. Frankly I think it's just a moot point. Who cares?

Paok 05-29-2007 04:19 PM

Comair has a communications lesson in indoc.....It is funny there is audio of two ways of asking for a clearance. Once is this person with a strong southern accent blabbing on and on, and finishing with "yall have a nice day" And the other is the CORRECT way as an airline pilot to request a clearance..... Had a good laugh

BlueMoon 05-29-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Billy32 (Post 172670)
So it is the redundant part that annoys you? Just trying to understand what is being said wrong. Most times I don't even listen to my FO when he is getting clearance, I am doing other things. I am just happy when I get an FO that doesn't scare me, screwing up a clearance request doesn't really bother me.

Doesn't annoy me, just gives me a chuckle. It is one of those things that is a no brainer, as no airline in La Guardia is going VFR (none that I know of at least).


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