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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
(Post 3105580)
And there are plenty of airports regionals operate in where a mainline plane would never be able to go. It’s not always a matter of consolidating 5 daily flight to 1 weekly flight, or maintaining slot/gate space, or whatever frequency is required at small airports for EAS agreements. Sometimes it comes down to size and performance. You’ll never see mainline at State College, Flagstaff, Aspen, Ithaca, or any number of small airports.
If two or three off and two or three on at each stop, it was considered a good day. If loads were 35%, things were good. |
Originally Posted by TransWorld
(Post 3105944)
Before deregulation, Ozark did milk runs up and down the Mississippi River, from Memphis to Minneapolis, 5 intermediate stops. Covered a lot of what are now EAS airports. Used the DC-9 (prestretched version of the Mad Dog). Worked fine.
If two or three off and two or three on at each stop, it was considered a good day. If loads were 35%, things were good. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3105972)
Oil was $3/bbl
...and ticket prices were controlled...dare I say "regulated"... such that a profit, however meager, was more likely than not. |
Could be another lost decade. Who knows. A lot of young pilots in this forum were in denial and discounting what us older pilots were saying about our lost decade. Who knew you guys would have it worse! Good luck.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3105972)
Oil was $3/bbl
Originally Posted by bradthepilot
(Post 3105983)
...and ticket prices were controlled...dare I say "regulated"... such that a profit, however meager, was more likely than not.
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
(Post 3105939)
yes, but that subject has been argued to death for years. We would all love to be absorbed by a major. They’ll never do it though.
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Originally Posted by brocklee9000
(Post 3106042)
So again, whether it’s a literal aircraft performance limitation or a financial performance limitation, we won’t see mainline planes or pilots in a lot of these cities. Not when some airports are small, loads are small, and a full regional crew costs as much per hour as one mainline captain. Regionals are here to stay, and in these times it seems like FFD might be marginally more secure than WO. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it for now.
Just a question of how small, how many, and who's flying them. If a recovery is relatively quick, it will be back to business as usual soon enough. If this turns into an extended slo-mo industry train wreck, regionals might grow or shrink dramatically, only time will tell. |
Originally Posted by Flyhayes
(Post 3106089)
Who said anything about being absorbed? There would be plenty of soon to be furloughed mainline pilots to fly them. It's not like they would have to purchase any new air frames, and there would be zero scope limitations.
Yeah but then they’d have to pay real wages and there’d be no one to pit each other against in the race to the bottom. |
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 3101969)
1- Things will get better as soon as the election is over in November. The vast majority of the hysteria of the virus now is politically driven.=12pt
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
(Post 3106469)
Yeah but then they’d have to pay real wages and there’d be no one to pit each other against in the race to the bottom.
But, UA has shot this down multiple times bc financially it doesnt make sense to them, even at a B scale pilot pay. Also they would then be responsible for the aircraft such as maintenance, insurance, and liability. For example, if a rj messes up some how and gets sued by a pax, UA is not legally held accountable. |
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