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Originally Posted by Meep
(Post 3135932)
Are you arguing the regionals are more stable? Pretty sure 3 regionals have bit the dust within the last 5 months.
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Originally Posted by C17B74
(Post 3135862)
Mentioned before by several: “Lucky to be hired by FedEx or UPS”. It’s all cyclic and economy dependent. People weren’t even going to FedEx, UPS or Southwest a year ago when called by the others at times.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/f...ping-ship.html "The majority of my buddies fly for the UAL/Delta/AA/SWA and truly think I’m nuts staying on board FedEx’s sinking ship." |
Originally Posted by C17B74
(Post 3135862)
Very true, but everyone forgets the middle step. Everything coming down to single pilot ops first. Don’t worry about full drone capability being pushed, it’s incremental and especially with public perception involved as you’ve all witnessed these past several months. Long haul 4 pilots down to 2, 2 down to one... Although delayed due to COVID19, next airliners were already designed to drop a seat up front. Bought some time, but it’s coming.
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Reduced cockpit staffing is an enormous money saver. How soon? Hard to say. Will every big spender in aviation push for it? Absolutely. Look how hard every contract is fought. Look how hard Boeing pushed to reduce pilot costs on the max
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3136072)
Reduced cockpit staffing is an enormous money saver. How soon? Hard to say. Will every big spender in aviation push for it? Absolutely. Look how hard every contract is fought. Look how hard Boeing pushed to reduce pilot costs on the max
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Originally Posted by 123494
(Post 3136122)
How hard did they push since the MAX has pretty much the same overhead panel as the 737 Classic?
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3136130)
That’s exactly how they pushed. They’d rather retrofit the rest of the airplane to accommodate the 1950’s flight deck than have airlines possibly have to pay for differences training.
https://i.ibb.co/LYwRcDN/96068-D94-1...DEB1-AC2-B.jpg My read is that they got caught with their pants down by the NEO and needed to quickly put lipstick on a 53 year old pig. They needed a clean sheet design, or better yet, the start of a type-family which Boeing sort of pioneered with the 757/767 42 years ago then dropped with follow on aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Trappy
(Post 3135617)
121 Pilots are married to their company and have no job mobility. Majors sell their own tickets, while regionals are cost saving subcontractors. Which do you think is more stable?
Take health and insurance benefits away from the companies and provided through the union, just have the company remit their share to the union program. Now, when you change jobs, all that changes is where the check comes form. Heck, even move the 401k's to be union managed... now you don't need to roll over or anything else. Lots of things the unions "should" do but never will since they are big business just like the Airlines and big business always takes care of their own first.... they are all sloths guilty of greed.... more for them, none for you. My favorite sins.... |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3136162)
https://i.ibb.co/LYwRcDN/96068-D94-1...DEB1-AC2-B.jpg
My read is that they got caught with their pants down by the NEO and needed to quickly put lipstick on a 53 year old pig. They needed a clean sheet design, or better yet, the start of a type-family which Boeing sort of pioneered with the 757/767 42 years ago then dropped with follow on aircraft. |
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
(Post 3136130)
That’s exactly how they pushed. They’d rather retrofit the rest of the airplane to accommodate the 1950’s flight deck than have airlines possibly have to pay for differences training.
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