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ExpressJet was about to make the change at the beginning of this year right when all this bs happened. They were going to use it as a recruiting tool. But we know the end to that story.
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"...try a three-year stint in the USMC. You get to rid yourself of all personal accessories (including hair), and learn about and develop the REAL you."
The last radically "Pro-beard" guy I flew with was a 23 year old FO, who showed up on day three with a feigned apology about not having time to shave his beard that morning. I had to look very, very, very close to see that he was right. |
Originally Posted by luke3
(Post 3139024)
While not technically a regional per se, JSX flies regional jets and allows for beards. I personally had one for 90% of my time there. While there were a couple of guys that looked sloppy, most people did groom them nicely and it looked good
Sure, there will be ones that abuse it or outright flaunt their refusal to conform, but these people would do this with anything offered. The HR excuse doesnt hold water with me, that is part of their job. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3139057)
Sure, there will be ones that abuse it or outright flaunt their refusal to conform, but these people would do this with anything offered. The HR excuse doesnt hold water with me, that is part of their job.
It's more of a corporate culture issue, and that includes the pilot groups themselves... maybe 20% want beards, 20% don't want beards but are fine but the majority are opposed, at least at the majors. And the regionals will have to follow the majors on this one. I'd throw in my lot with the beard-backers if we could get some 'stache flexibility thrown in for good measure... Sam Elliot, Horseshoe, Magnum PI haha For those hoping for a paradigm shift, recall that we had a beard fad back in the 70's which got zero traction in any of the traditionally clean-shaven professions. Most likely, this too shall pass. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3139088)
Yeah, corporate management of beard compliance isn't any different than for haircuts.
It's more of a corporate culture issue, and that includes the pilot groups themselves... maybe 20% want beards, 20% don't want beards but are fine but the majority are opposed, at least at the majors. And the regionals will have to follow the majors on this one. I'd throw in my lot with the beard-backers if we could get some 'stache flexibility thrown in for good measure... Sam Elliot, Horseshoe, Magnum PI haha For those hoping for a paradigm shift, recall that we had a beard fad back in the 70's which got zero traction in any of the traditionally clean-shaven professions. Most likely, this too shall pass. Sure, HR can handle it. Besides, if you can pass a class 1 physical what business is it of the company - or the public - what you look like? https://i.ibb.co/LQpVZ9B/D6583-BB4-F...20-BAE4-C1.jpg |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3139102)
Sure, HR can handle it. Besides, if you can pass a class 1 physical what business is it of the company - or the public - what you look like?
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Myself and many others have beards at the airline we work for. I sometimes forget and wonder why I get all the weird looks from pilots when I'm being positive spaced to and from work if I happen to be in uniform.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3139217)
Not at all. But one more subjective HR enforcement issue is simply one more problem they don’t need. Not with thousands of qualified people out there on furlough who are ready to shave to get a job.
Tell me, how many HR cases arise each year at any airline over hairstyle? |
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