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Old 05-30-2007 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Two biggest issue are airspeed and flare hight. They always come in screaming fast then want to stall at 20ft. Also watch how you handle the nose. I use to get T38 guys in there that always wanted to kill me.
jesus............. Im starting to worry, there was a time when I felt like the 172 was part of me, I new that airplane inside and out..................maybe this is the type of attitude that leads to mishaps
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Old 05-30-2007 | 01:52 PM
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In January, I went to get my ATP in an airplane I had hundreds of hours in (Aztec) after flying the ATR for 9 months. It amazed how I had forgotten to land the thing! I was glad I had a CFI on board for the first few messes I had to call landings. Flying a transport category airplane and a GA airplane are different. If you haven't been in a 172 for a while, I would recommend a CFI on board for a few minutes around the pattern... when I was a CFI, I always cringed a little bit when the "airline guys" came in for the checkout our insurance company required. Everything was always great, except the landings...
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Old 05-30-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Flew single engine today after an indetermined "hiatus". You're sooooo screwed. take the three t&g's so you don't embarass the hell outta yourself in front of your friends.
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Old 05-30-2007 | 03:25 PM
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I fly a small cessna every several months or so when i'm visiting friends and the initial landings are typically not things of beauty. I don't know about going out to do any airwork but I would highly recommend grabbing a CFI or at least someone "current" and taking a few bounces around the pattern. Chances are, you'd be fine, but in that one rare case do you really want to make that mistake? All it takes is a few extra minutes of your time and a couple more bucks, the possible alternative, well...

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Old 05-30-2007 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Single engine current? I don't believe there is a thing. He can go solo anytime he wants.
Don't you have to have 3 takeoffs and landings within the preceding 90 days in an aircraft of the same category (airplane) and class (single-engine land) if you want to carry passengers. I could be wrong, its been a while since I've looked at the reg. Regardless, if your 121 PC was not recorded as a BFR, does it still count? When we did 141 stage checks (not for a certificate or rating), if a student wanted it to count as a BFR, the Fargo FSDO's interpretation was that those checks, though they were "proficiency checks" needed to be recorded specifically as BFRs. It feels to me like the same would be true of 121 proficiency checks.
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Old 05-30-2007 | 04:30 PM
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I wonder if he'll actually go through with it. If so, fasten your seat belt tight! If you haven't flown a lawnmower in years it's gonna be a wild ride. My thoughts will be with you bro.
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Old 05-30-2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy;
Regardless, if your 121 PC was not recorded as a BFR, does it still count? When we did 141 stage checks (not for a certificate or rating), if a student wanted it to count as a BFR, the Fargo FSDO's interpretation was that those checks, though they were "proficiency checks" needed to be recorded specifically as BFRs. It feels to me like the same would be true of 121 proficiency checks.
(d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c)
of this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by an
examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a U.S. Armed Force, for a
pilot certificate, rating, or operating privilege need not accomplish
the flight review required by this section.
A 141 stage check is not a proficiency check for a certificate, rating, or operating privilege(this is where the 121 and 135 checks are allowed). That is why you still needed an endorsement for the BFR is you used the stage check. Different ballgame for 121 and 135 PCs.
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Old 05-30-2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Two biggest issue are airspeed and flare hight. They always come in screaming fast then want to stall at 20ft. Also watch how you handle the nose. I use to get T38 guys in there that always wanted to kill me.

This has got to be one of the funniest conversations I've read on APC in quite a while. A bunch of professional airline pilots afraid of a little 172.

Seriously though, I'd take the CFI with me too. I took a cherokee 180 up the other day after not having flown anything smaller than a light twin in a while. Funny how every little wind gust makes it feel like those small planes are going to roll inverted any minute.

ToiletDuck is absolutely right about flying the approach too. I flew way faster than I needed to on final and the flare didn't feel right at all. I used alot of runway bleeding off all that excess speed. Kind of embarrassing as there were always students parked at the approach end of the runway waiting their turn to go up. I could almost hear the instructors with them saying "now don't fly like that guy".
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Old 05-30-2007 | 09:39 PM
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Not sure how the sabb is but the emb is real heavy on the controls. That was the hardest thing for me to get used to, I had a tendency to over control the 172 after flying the emb. Its funny how a 172 now feels like a go-cart or something, I remember thinking how cool I was flying that plane. Now I’m cool flying the stretched barby jet, ha ha. Yeah I would recommend an instructor for a few landings.
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Old 05-30-2007 | 09:56 PM
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At least have a supervised solo!
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