SAABaroowski, check your PM.

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PSA sends this to many applicants who are below there minimums, and then contacts them later for an interview. My buddy recieved this same e-mail, replied a "thanks for the reply" e-mail and now works there. Good luck

Socal Pilot how does your buddy like PSA so far????? I hear good things then i hear bad things???? whats the deal???

Wouldnt this be an ideal situation. Getting all aircraft on mainline property and having real contract negotiations would be a benefit to anyone in aviation. That's how they do it in Canada, and it worked out pretty well for them.

How can you be below their minimums with minimums at Comm/Multi???

Where have you been for the last five years?

15 years at US Airways makes you a reserve FO, not a Captain.

12 years at US Airways makes you a flowback Captain in a CRJ or a 145.


The 190s coming on board has been a done deal for about 18 months. They are comperable to F100s Airways used to fly. The E170/175s (the ones that were sold out from under Midatlatic to RAG) are comperable to the F28s they used to fly. Don't act like it insulting to fly smaller jet equipment. Its insulting to fly jet equipment for T-prop rates.

This Thread put me to sleep about an hour ago now :confused:
Nice goin' SAAB and SHAM. I was suppose to study :D

How's training going Shanejj ? I guess you heard they gave me a 10 day paid vacation after indoc. I'll be back on the 11th. :rolleyes:

Not my intention to sound insulting, however I do believe that someone who has been flying an Airbus as captain then being downgraded to fly the E190 that is trash, period. I don't care what's the spin is.

As for turboprop deal, you have to start somewhere. That is why they keep on bringing these types of equipments so you could get a better experience because they know that you want to move up and not stay there (regional). Now, I am not insulting anyone who wants to stay at regional for the rest for their lives; it is their decisions.

It's going great!
Had my 1st sim sessions today....:eek:
It went good....didn't fall behind the airplane (yet) lol:D .
We'll see how tomorrow goes....Can't wait to finish this and get
some actuall pax on board :D

I heard about you yes. You along with your best friend right ;-)
Keep your studying going though....

If you think "they" (assuming "they" is airline management) are flying turbojets at the regionals to give young pilots a better experience, you need to do some more reading. Bottom line, airlines are businesses that exist to create wealth for their shareholders(or stakeholders if privately held). Don't ever think a business will do something just to help out their employees. They do it b/c it improves the productivity. Pilots are flying turbojets at the regional level b/c its more cost effective to pay dirt wages to us new pilots than to pay mainline wages. They take advantage of the itinerant pilot groups who suck it up to make their bottom line better.

The best airplane to fly is the one you are currently flying, provided the pay is reasonable. The only motivation for moving to bigger airplanes in the past was that pay was related to weight and pax. Frankly, an E170 or 190 flying domestic trips for the same pay as a 777 across the pond is a lot more appealing to a lot of people when it comes down to QOL.

Here we go again,

Thank you for your suggestions. Again, Shareholder/Stakeholders whoever they are the're not my business. My job is to work and get the heck out of their ASAP!

Maybe I need to make myself more clear. You as a pilot, you need to take advantage of flying these airplanes (E175, 190 etc). You are correct management is not going to do anything unless it serves their bottom line. However, I also know that you are satisfied with the QOL where you are that is o.k . The pay sucks going from Airbus to E190. The guy I am talking about he did not like it, but he had no choice. So, the question then is: What are you looking for? QOL, less pay, more pay, experience take your pick!

On your point about the Airbus to E190 paycut, I agree that its crap to accept that pay. This is where we can make efforts at the regional level to improve the industry. If the regional E170 crews are making decent wages, mainline management will have a hard time selling wages to the union that look like regional pay.

I agree that all of our goals are to move up the food chain as quickly as possible. What I see as a problem though is that our "generation" of pilots will probably be staying longer at the regional level than those in the past especially if Age 65 becomes reality. I do not relish the idea of being an E170 FO for 5+ years at the current pay rates. That's where I see the problem. If advancement continues at the current rate, we'll all be doing pretty well in 5-10 years. If say for example, the current growth spurt is not sustainable and we end up on the street or stuck at a regional, we have a vested interest in making sure we fight for pay that is fair for the work we perform. If not for us, then for those who follow us. Besides, you never know when you'll be furloughed from mainline and back at your regional. You should always do your best to leave your last job better than when you started. Those are the resume bullets that get the big bucks down the road. When everyone has 1000 turbine PIC, you need something to distinguish you.

Bottom line, I'd fly a Cessna 152 my whole career if they paid me $200/hr with 18 days off a month. If the pay and QOL is the same, type only matters when it comes to mine is bigger than yours fights.

CBIRE880,

Now you're talking. I find you're reasoning on this last thread very mature and worthy of discussion; I am not saying that you are not mature!!!

That is the reasonn why I left instructing, simply because I was getting crap of pay and wasting my energy to people who thought that I had to do the learning for them.

I would too, do it in a heartbeat would I have a 172 job that pays me decent wages then being junior manned while getting a pay equivalent to assistant manager at a gas station, maybe!

Another thing, remember that these regionals they also want to survive in the industry as well. If they were to pay you and I 30 or 35 bucks an hour surely it would help some of us, but in the process this could take these guys out of business in the long run. I am not advocating lower wages, but hoping that we can be reasonable and yet assertive for what we want as pay.

I am not afraid of age 65 even if it slows the attrition. Not everyone wants to fly past 60! Be assured that there will always be something out there for us.

PSA, from what I hear, isn't really that bad. My sim partner came from PSA and said that their contract is pretty good, as is QOL. He only left because he was tired of his commute.

Had a PSA J4J captain in the jumpseat yesterday...he said PSA had a record in sick calls this past weekend. Also said they have 2 airplanes down for heavy check, 2 parked for lack of crews, and 2 more slated to be parked for lack of crews.

Additionally, he said there is somebody in class now with a PVT/Multi who will get his commercial license during his PC and SIC type ride. That sounded a little bit over the top...:eek:

He *did* say the new CP is a good guy and is being put in a tough spot by the higher-ups.

NO WAY!!! NO FREAKING WAY!!. They hired a guy w/ a PVT/MULTI and I can't get a call back with COMM/MULTI 541/25?!?!? Who is that CP??!? I need to email him!

Disregard. Thought the J4J was referring to Jetstreams. Not the Jets For Jobs......

I don't know if that was true or not.

It was a "jumpseat rumor"...you'll learn fast to take those with more than just a grain of salt.

PSA used to fly Dork props...they switched to all CRJs sometime between 2002-2004 I believe and accepted Jets For Jobs to gain the CRJ 200 and 700. Most if not all of the mainline furloughs are captains there and have "slotted bidding". I think they are (were?) paid off their mainline longevity. This jumpseater also said PSA is holding most of these J4J guys for 9 months, preventing them from accepting recall put paying them up to 76 hours worth of 767 FO pay.

That would really suck if true, but I'd bet the guy is a gal and knows someone in management. I'd also bet they don't have much if any single engine time. 50-100 multi is the key dude.

no offense........but with that time the only call you should be getting should be from an FBO...............oh the sense of entitlelment :)

Man, I always wanted to do lazy eights and chandelles in the CRJ :p

That would be fun!
...the cross-country planning, however, would not be. Do you think he's allowed to get help from Dispatch?

What is the upgrade time at PSA currently running for the CRJ-200 and the CRJ-700?

You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee. There is no way this is true. They have tons of people to choose from that meet the minimums.

I dunno, I've heard some strange things, even from my check airman contact at TSA.

What about an instrument rating? When is he going to get his commercial?

With what information you told us he could, for all we know have UNDER 40 hours TT.

Whoever told you this is a liar my friend.

If you go on the airline profiles and scroll down to the bottom, it tells you when the most junior captain was hired. It will surely go down with US Airways calling back furloughs and higher attrition due to other majors beginning to hire again.

Tsa (pvt Dude)
 

Those who are speaking about a PVT-MEL guy who is in training is TRUE.
I have a friend at TSA who told (He saw it his own eyes and ears) Currently he is doing recurrent. This individual will get COMM on the PC (SIC TYPE RIDE) :eek:

What is next Regionals to do AB INTRO on their own?


ME: I am in training @ PSA airlines in Dayton, OH.

Bye

Pilot754, I believe this person is supposedly at PSA, not TSA. See you next week.

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So those of you who got this email how did it turn out? I just got one today trying to figure out if I should respond back. I think I will with a simple Thank you for the consideration type thing. Did anybody get an interview after this email? Thanks

You''ll get an offer to interview in the next week or so. I did after I got that email.

Slayer,
What were your times? I'm at 375/28...any chance on getting in with that?
-MJ

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:rolleyes:

Don't have to for a ME Comm. I have never done a lazy eight or chandelle. I also have no SE Commercial.

This is how it should be. More seniority numbers at major/legacy carriers means more chances for better jobs for all of us. Believe me on this one. The more the larger airplanes are contracted out the fewer jobs there will be for us later.

There is no way any of the EMB-170 line should be flown by so-called 'regional' carriers IMHO. That should be a mainline jet. End of story. Same should be true for the CRJ-700/900.

Frankly, I'd like to see the Beech 1900s at mainline. No, I am not kidding either.

Would you rather go through a thorough selection process once and have your career progress through a bunch of machinery? Or would you rather become king of the world on a CRJ-900 or EMB-175 and then have to start all over again? Interview again?

What's next? Calling a 737 a 'regional' jet because SWA uses it on some short routes?

Larger airplanes at outsourcing contract 'regional' carriers hurts careers. Short-term happiness for the 21 year old F/O who will never see the inside of a Boeing or Airbus because it becomes contracted out. Beware kids.

This SJS is EXACTLY the mentality your management wants you to have.

I had 1200/400

I had close to 700/150 and pretty much everyone else was around that mark OR higher. Its your call if you want to turn in a resume/application now or make the decision to keep plugging away and building up more experience.

My times aren't spectacular. Not even close to what would have been needed to get an airline to fart in my general direction during the last hiring boom. I admit its a lucky time to be looking for a job.

Haha thanks guys. I've been instructing for around 100 hrs or so and do agree that building up that experience is necessary. However, I just happened to fall into the middle of a hiring boom and figure that I'll have to take advantage of it while it lasts.
-MJ

I hope so.. I applied with 450/65 so I might still be a little low for their "competetive min" but on aviationinterviews.com they hired a bunch at around 300 hours but they where probably all crj trans. course people. Did you send them a response to the first email. I haven't yet but as I get farther along I'm thinking of sending a thank you for the consideration type email. Thanks for the info