There were several in my XJT class a couple of years ago who flew in circles in their own planes. XJT was desperate so they took them but only 1 made it out of training. I think you’ll be able to find a job but it will be at a “less desirable” airline. Just be sure to get some quality IFR experience. I think the problem those guys had was they just flew on beautiful days and didn’t really have the right kind of experience to succeed.


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When I was there (Xjt) we had a number of pilots who had their own planes. Some were young and built time while others were midlife career changers with 1500 hours of $100 hamburgers.

I guy I work with now sold his 150 to his BIL who got his ratings and then flew it from his pasture for 1500 hours. He’s now at envoy.

With BFI training, almost unlimited sims and 100 hour IOE footprints, anything is possible as long as there is a good attitude and continuous progress.

No self-respecting professional should ever actually support a view like this. If you require 100 hours of IOE, you should be shown the door.

Agreed. It happens but that doesn’t mean that it should.

whats BFI training?

Pardon my ignorance, but what is BFI?

Wondered the same, maybe he meant AQP?

Perhaps 100 is high but the FAA minimum was designed for a pilot with multiple type ratings transitioning to a different piece of equipment not someone fresh out of a 172. It would be nice to take the UPT approach and wash out anyone who fails any lesson twice but the labor supply isn’t going to allow that. If you wish to maintain a single level of safety then the training programs must account for different learning rates and prior experience.

Depends. There are a few pilots who come from non-121 and/or non-jet backgrounds who can be perfectly capable 121 pilots with additional training to get them to the right level. There are also some who never really get there, no matter how much training they have and the trick is differentiating the two.

In the old days we got in the habit of low tolerance for training repeats because it was a buyer's market for pilots and the airlines didn't want to spend the money on extra training... so to get in the game you not only had to succeed, you had to do it in very close to the regulatory minimum. That doesn't absolutely mean that you *have* to breeze through training in order to develop into a good pilot.

With a bad labor shortage some regionals lose interest in the distinction, just want meat in seats.

Basic Flight Instruction, I didn’t lead into that well. We often had to do basic flight and instrument training on pilots that supposedly had an atp, but lacked basic flying skills.