91 job to a regional?
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I do quiet time on trips, and still have 17-18 days off per month to do whatever excites me. Or not, whichever.
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Also if you have the opportunity at your current place to be involved in training/standards/safety/hiring etc. do it. With no 121 time anything you can do to make yourself stand out, the better.
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Nope, I ran into that same issue.
”Scheduled” 135 is what the reg says.
So you’re back at zero as far as the 121 world is concerned with a minimum of 1000hrs for upgrade so bite the bullet and get 121 time with Republic.
With all due respect, don’t thing they’re waiting for you as they’re most definitely not.
Your problem with Part 91 is also their problem with Part 91.
Your chances would have been better if you’d stayed 135 and didn’t switch over to 91.
”Scheduled” 135 is what the reg says.
So you’re back at zero as far as the 121 world is concerned with a minimum of 1000hrs for upgrade so bite the bullet and get 121 time with Republic.
With all due respect, don’t thing they’re waiting for you as they’re most definitely not.
Your problem with Part 91 is also their problem with Part 91.
Your chances would have been better if you’d stayed 135 and didn’t switch over to 91.
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this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combi*nation thereof.”
135.243(a)(1) states: “a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger* seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter”
To me, it reads like it’s 10+ seats OR scheduled 135 to count toward 121 PIC requirements.
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121.436 says: “If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of
this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combi*nation thereof.”
135.243(a)(1) states: “a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger* seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter”
To me, it reads like it’s 10+ seats OR scheduled 135 to count toward 121 PIC requirements.
this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combi*nation thereof.”
135.243(a)(1) states: “a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger* seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter”
To me, it reads like it’s 10+ seats OR scheduled 135 to count toward 121 PIC requirements.
That being said, any company can be more restrictive in their requirements than regulation. It is possible even if you have the legal requirements they may want you to have X amount of time at the airline, 121, etc.
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You can skip the regionals. Unless your jobs is truly awful/unsafe and you just can't bring yourself to go to work for one more day, stick with it and keep applying to Jetblue and the others. Plenty of guys here at B6 who came directly from the corporate world, and I have quite a few buddies who went straight 91 large cabin to Southwest, United and Delta. It's not uncommon at all.
Hiring is just starting up again so don't feel bad if you don't get a call ASAP, but there is zero reason with your credentials to go sit right seat in an RJ and take a huge pay and QOL hit in the HOPES that a major airline calls you. You're competitive already with what you posted for all the major airlines. Hit every job fair, meet and greet and networking event that you can find.
My .02 would be, if your job truly sucks, start looking at other part 91 gigs while also working on Jetblue and the others. If you're flying large cabin biz then you have marketable type ratings and skills that could get you another corporate job with similar or even better pay and QOL than you already are enjoying. Worst case, JB and others never call but you found yourself a better biz jet job. Best case you get a call from the majors while also getting offered a new/better 91 job.
Hiring is just starting up again so don't feel bad if you don't get a call ASAP, but there is zero reason with your credentials to go sit right seat in an RJ and take a huge pay and QOL hit in the HOPES that a major airline calls you. You're competitive already with what you posted for all the major airlines. Hit every job fair, meet and greet and networking event that you can find.
My .02 would be, if your job truly sucks, start looking at other part 91 gigs while also working on Jetblue and the others. If you're flying large cabin biz then you have marketable type ratings and skills that could get you another corporate job with similar or even better pay and QOL than you already are enjoying. Worst case, JB and others never call but you found yourself a better biz jet job. Best case you get a call from the majors while also getting offered a new/better 91 job.
There are only two of us in the department, so I am involved with all of that. Sad part is I can't check the "management" box on a lot of applications even though I am technically.
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As folks get older, some find they prefer a little well-compensated boredom over the "excitement" that you get from operational, job, and career uncertainty.
I do quiet time on trips, and still have 17-18 days off per month to do whatever excites me. Or not, whichever.
I do quiet time on trips, and still have 17-18 days off per month to do whatever excites me. Or not, whichever.
#20
I don't spend any more time using the autopilot at my airline than I did flying 91/135. If anything the corporate equipment was far more modern. If I want excitement in an airplane I'll buy an Extra.
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