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Originally Posted by DontLookDown (Post 3305633)

If anyone should be crying about hours requirements it should be the small mom and pops charter companies.

They need a 1200 hour pilot to fly their pax in IFR.

By the time someone has built 1200 hours, they might as well just keep doing what they’re doing to get 300 more.

Not to mention, we were just discussing if 1500 hours is safe for someone to be an airline pilot.

In the 135 world you might be flying old, piston airplanes with limited capabilities. No extra engine to rely on. You’re MUCH more likely to have a mechanical emergency. You don’t have a dispatcher or ground crew for support. You don’t have a cabin crew or copilot for support. In the regional world you’ll fly the same approaches all the time. In 135 you’re likely going somewhere new most days. As the pilot shortage continues I don’t think many small scale 135’s will stay in business.

135 and 91 are inherently allowed to have a lower safety standard than 121.

Some of that is caveat emptor, and some of it simply that 121 safety has outgrown GA safety due to decades of media coverage and public and political pressure.

Doesn't mean it *must* have a lower standard, that's up to YOU. Any halfway smart billionaire can afford the best large cabin equipment (or just buy a transport category jet) and pay for top-tier mx and crew... I'm sure the best of those are safer than airlines since they employ top professionals, never any trainees.

Seriously, go get a job and build to 1500 hours. It’s not that much flight time. Stop being lazy. Just shut up and do it.
Go be a CFI and actually teach, you’ll be shocked by just how little you actually know. Go fly 135. Go tow banners. Just do something.

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Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3305610)

As a previous R-ATP person who joined the regionals at 1000 hours. Best guess would be because of the structured training and in depth course work from Day 1 of school until degree certification vs the unstructured Part 61 training and lack of in-depth course work in that training environment. There is a big difference both environments. Is the course additional work worth the additional tuition expenses, no they are not.

Theory was that the comprehensive flight-ops oriented book learning made them better aviators. Even though the flight training is the same as at your local mom & pop 141.

Reality was politics and money.

The big flight schools (who had money to lobby) were afraid the ATP rule would scare away their customers... and they also saw an opportunity if they could be designated as the sole gateway to a shortcut. So they lobbied for an exception and got it. They actually wanted a much bigger exception of course but they got 1000 hours.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3303596)

In my experience…

Tell us more about your ‘experience’. Aren’t you still trying to get paid to fly something, anything? And in the meantime posing as someone with ‘experience’?

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Originally Posted by terks43 (Post 3305662)

LOL there are a ton of people sitting on 500 hours who can't find a job. 1000 hours is the new 500 now.

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Originally Posted by RandomPilotDude (Post 3305688)

LOL there are a ton of people sitting on 500 hours who can't find a job. 1000 hours is the new 500 now.

Get their CFI, tons of CFI jobs available out there. Can go to just about every mom and pop small flight school and get on. So many people just want to instruct at the pilot mills.