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rickair7777 06-14-2007 09:43 AM

SKW SAPA President
 
Anybody know much about the SAPA president? Especially his recent email?

The situation sounds pretty bad, but I don't know the guy and didn't know what led up to the whole thing. Trying to decide if it's all legit, or if he possibly got into SAPA with the intent all along of acting as an ALPA agent provocateur?

Thoughts?

Slaphappy 06-14-2007 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 180213)
Anybody know much about the SAPA president? Especially his recent email?

The situation sounds pretty bad, but I don't know the guy and didn't know what led up to the whole thing. Trying to decide if it's all legit, or if he possibly got into SAPA with the intent all along of acting as an ALPA agent provocateur?

Thoughts?

To lots of people that e-mail pretty much sealed the deal against alpa. That and their little lawsuit thing.

ShakenBake 06-14-2007 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 180224)
To lots of people that e-mail pretty much sealed the deal against alpa. That and their little lawsuit thing.

Just the opposite for me. I sent in my card today. Nothing like realizing your so called reps are so far up inside Jerry's a$$ that they don't know who they are representing. Come get my dues ALPA, just don't forget who you work for.

Slaphappy 06-14-2007 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by ShakenBake (Post 180273)
Just the opposite for me. I sent in my card today. Nothing like realizing your so called reps are so far up inside Jerry's a$$ that they don't know who they are representing. Come get my dues ALPA, just don't forget who you work for.

Alpa will only hurt skywest

rickair7777 06-14-2007 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 180224)
To lots of people that e-mail pretty much sealed the deal against alpa. That and their little lawsuit thing.

I was kind of thinking it was the other way around....

duvie 06-14-2007 01:39 PM

I'm not opposed to ALPA but I think right now we have a lot more to lose then we have to gain. The probability that ALPA will get us that little bit we're missing IE better first year pay, better PBS, etc. is not likely.

rjboy 06-14-2007 01:45 PM

Just to play devil's advocate here. If JA is pulling the strings of SAPA, I would be willing to bet that the OC/ALPA is pulling the strings behind our new president (that being said I think he is a great guy). My problem with APLA is that they are out for themselves, not us. They are a business just like Skywest and they are trying to sell us on the need for their services. We already have one of the best combos of work rules/pay/upgrade times in the industry. I'm not saying ALPA would have a negative impact. I just don't see that they are offering anything worth our 2%.

JetJock16 06-14-2007 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 180224)
To lots of people that e-mail pretty much sealed the deal against alpa. That and their little lawsuit thing.

Slap! You're an "IDIOT!" Everyone I've talked to has said they’re going to send in their card now. Does SAPA really deserve our support?

Who's really running the show @ SAPA? Nolan? Other EBs? No it's JA! Mgmnt, errrrrr, SAPA says they have the same power as unions in order to keep the "Wool" pulled over there pilots eyes.

Remember that SAPA's loyalty is to Mgmnt, history has made that painfully obvious.

Slaphappy 06-14-2007 02:17 PM

I don't understand what the big deal all of a sudden is.

bender 06-14-2007 03:02 PM

The big deal is that the company is arguing that SAPA is in fact our legal bargaining organization under the RLA, which is completely false. Even if SAPA was somehow found to be a union, unions started or run by the company are illegal. 3 EB members were testifying on behalf of the company.


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