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LoneStar32 03-27-2022 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by DoSomePilotStuf (Post 3393856)
I suspect ALPA may be concerned that SkyWest is trying to drop EAS to go after contracts that other regionals are falling short on due to the widespread staffing issues at the regional airlines. And while yes, pay would help, the real problem in the here and now is getting pilots trained at a rate sufficient to cover attrition.

I believe you are on the right track here. It is almost like union busting and ALPA is stepping up. It is shameful what Skywest did and management should be delt with appropriately.

LoneStar32 03-27-2022 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Round Luggage (Post 3394046)
I disagree as there is no ability to “go after” ALPA flying. They have lost the ability to staff 10 airplanes last month alone and block hours have already been pulled down from previous commitments. If anything this opens the door for ALPA flying expansion if they want it.

Well, that's why they wanted to drop the EAS. To gain capacity. SkyWest is always looking to weasel more flying away from their competitors.

jacburn 03-27-2022 09:27 AM

Why is this not posted under the Skywest forum?

JohnnyBekkestad 03-27-2022 10:13 AM

The real problem here is everyone dropping the 1000TPIC requirement. Put that one back and hire from CA and everything will go back to normal.

KirillTheThrill 03-27-2022 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3395539)
The real problem here is everyone dropping the 1000TPIC requirement. Put that one back and hire from CA and everything will go back to normal.

Not going to happen, everyone needs to hire 1,000’s of pilots to manage retirements and growth in the next 10 years. You’ve said this multiple times already, it’s not going to happen, and it’s foolish from the side of any airline management to fall back to those requirements as their competitors pick off pilots well below the 1,000 PIC.

JohnnyBekkestad 03-27-2022 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3395542)
Not going to happen, everyone needs to hire 1,000’s of pilots to manage retirements and growth in the next 10 years. You’ve said this multiple times already, it’s not going to happen, and it’s foolish from the side of any airline management to fall back to those requirements as their competitors pick off pilots well below the 1,000 PIC.

I disagree, there are plenty of CA to be hired. The legacies mainly hire CA anyway, by putting in the 1000TPIC requirement they will limit the poaching to the LCC.
People will hesitate to go from right seat to LCC if they know they won't be able to go to a legacy in 5-7 years.

KirillTheThrill 03-27-2022 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3395570)
I disagree, there are plenty of CA to be hired. The legacies mainly hire CA anyway, by putting in the 1000TPIC requirement they will limit the poaching to the LCC.
People will hesitate to go from right seat to LCC if they know they won't be able to go to a legacy in 5-7 years.

You can disagree, but you have no idea what you’re talking about. These airlines can’t afford to play that game. It won’t happen, that’s why you’re having regional FO’s leave for the legacy’s daily.

Is this personal for you? Upset the only CJO you can grab after having well north of 1,000 PIC is Atlas?

AirBear 03-28-2022 10:16 AM

FYI, a neighbor of mine attended the WIA conference last week and talked to AA, UAL, and SWA. He's close to 1000 SIC in the CRJ900 and is scheduled for Captain upgrade in mid-April. AA was ambivalent (he's at an AA wholly owned) but UAL and SWA both said once he upgrades and gets a few hours PIC he should be hearing from them. He's not talking to any ULCC's right now since he's got a good shot at getting hired at UAL. He has a 4yr degree and standard route via Flight School training then CFI until 1500 hours.

FXLAX 03-28-2022 11:49 AM

ALPA Leadership concerns....
 
Imagine if all regional jets currently flying under a major airline partner right now were magically operated by the same pilots they are now but employed by the company painted on the airplane and getting all the benefits, work rules, retirement, etc that current mainline pilots get now. Would there be a pilot shortage?

Aguywtwohands 03-28-2022 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by AirBear (Post 3395971)
FYI, a neighbor of mine attended the WIA conference last week and talked to AA, UAL, and SWA. He's close to 1000 SIC in the CRJ900 and is scheduled for Captain upgrade in mid-April. AA was ambivalent (he's at an AA wholly owned) but UAL and SWA both said once he upgrades and gets a few hours PIC he should be hearing from them. He's not talking to any ULCC's right now since he's got a good shot at getting hired at UAL. He has a 4yr degree and standard route via Flight School training then CFI until 1500 hours.

What's does a "few hours PIC" mean?
And do these conferences and expos actually make THAT much of a difference? I.e., it's worth a "sick" call?


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