Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3396019)

Imagine if all regional jets currently flying under a major airline partner right now were magically operated by the same pilots they are now but employed by the company painted on the airplane and getting all the benefits, work rules, retirement, etc that current mainline pilots get now. Would there be a pilot shortage?

Originally Posted by CADR (Post 3396334)

I see your point, and the regional model is not sustainable at this point long term. What is likely to happen is the 50 seaters will go away and the airlines that operate them will close up shop. Your “big” regionals with the 175s (Republic / Skywest) will continue to operate and the legacy airlines (UAL, DL and AA) will eventually acquire A220s & 190 E2s and operate “regional” routes with them. Yes scope clause and all that, but most unions will agree to anything once the airlines throw money at them.

Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3396343)

You’re probably right about the 50 seaters going away and the legacies being forced to take back a large portion of the regional feed with something like the A220’s. The next thing that will happen is there will be a thread on every board complaining about flying 4+ legs a day with short layovers. 🙄

Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3396393)

Go read the Delta forum. That's already happening!

Originally Posted by AANG (Post 3393938)

Of course. With higher rates, more would stay than do currently. Not everyone at the regionals is a 25 year old with no responsibilities, for whom moving to the majors offers a very clear betterment of their career/life. Even at the current rates, there are plenty of pilots who have determined that it's better for them and their families if they stay at their regional job. The higher the pay rates, the more of those pilots there are.

Further, the higher the pay rates, the more it makes sense for people to come to the regionals in the first place. Right now there are corporate gigs offering 1500 hr FOs more pay than some regional captains make. The LCCs and cargo are going to be hiring pilots at ATP mins with no jet time. If the regionals don't raise pay and quality of life, the regionals will have nothing to offer pilots other than a flow and quick upgrade. And in this hiring environment, the flow and a quick upgrade is worth far less than it used to be.

So yes, regional staffing issues are of their own doing. It's very simple. If they offered competitive compensation, benefits, and quality of life, they would have more pilots.

Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3395583)

Is this personal for you? Upset the only CJO you can grab after having well north of 1,000 PIC is Atlas?

Originally Posted by dera (Post 3396787)

Funny you think Atlas is somehow a bad CJO to have.
Shows how little you know.

Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3396800)

Atlas is a phenomenal CJO if you’re trying to convince your wife to leave you.

What day of your 3 week tour you on buddy?

Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3396800)

Atlas is a phenomenal CJO if you’re trying to convince your wife to leave you.

What day of your 3 week tour you on buddy?

Originally Posted by Aguywtwohands (Post 3396052)

What's does a "few hours PIC" mean?
And do these conferences and expos actually make THAT much of a difference? I.e., it's worth a "sick" call?