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kevin18 07-31-2022 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by FlyToFight;[url=tel:3470240
3470240[/url]]No I’m not. I’m saying it’s not cool for a pilot to go through training and then leave shortly after. It’s basic economics. Get it?

It’s on the company to provide an environment that makes a person want to stay there. Indentured servitude is complete bs.

Dash 8 Q400 07-31-2022 06:34 AM

Just tell the truth
 
Telling the truth, not matter what, brings honestly, intergrity and ethics to an organization. Lying, misleading people and cover ups lead to failures that become inevtiable.
Roughly 77% of new businesses fail in the U.S. There are many reasons but I would say poor management is on the top of that list. Companies that generally succeed have leadership that empowers and inspires people. The Southwest story is one of those stories.

If you continue to lie, cheat, hit people over the head, constantly misrepresent yourself and hire bad employees, YOU WILL FAIL.

Flytofight, with respect, maybe look at yourself as part of the problem? Self awareness is paramount. Scott Kirby at United seems to have done a 180 because his belief system wasn’t working.

This company has been at it for 2 years now and has had a lot of issues, seems it still does, right out of the box. Can it be fixed, maybe, but it has to start from within and at the top. You either get that or you don’t. Here’s some simple questions, ask yourself what your turnover has been like, why, and how much has it cost?

Best of luck but I think you need fundamental change.

FlyToFight 08-01-2022 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 3470249)
Actually it is cool.

What a dumb statement

FlyToFight 08-01-2022 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 3470254)
It’s on the company to provide an environment that makes a person want to stay there. Indentured servitude is complete bs.

Your right. Pilots leaving just because they get a better opportunity and screwing the company in the process because the pilot fails to honor their commitment is also Bs. Works both ways man

OOfff 08-01-2022 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by FlyToFight (Post 3470775)
Your right. Pilots leaving just because they get a better opportunity and screwing the company in the process because the pilot fails to honor their commitment is also Bs. Works both ways man

the part you’re stuck on is that you naively think anyone owes their employer loyalty.

Pilot4000 08-01-2022 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by FlyToFight (Post 3470775)
Your right. Pilots leaving just because they get a better opportunity and screwing the company in the process because the pilot fails to honor their commitment is also Bs. Works both ways man

Why doesn’t United, Delta or FedEx make their pilots sign a training agreement?

Why doesn’t Republic or Endeavor make their pilots sign a training agreement?

Twr199 08-01-2022 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by FlyToFight (Post 3470240)
No I’m not. I’m saying it’s not cool for a pilot to go through training and then leave shortly after. It’s basic economics. Get it?

Pay more and offer a contact worth staying for. Get it?

FlyToFight 08-01-2022 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3470828)
the part you’re stuck on is that you naively think anyone owes their employer loyalty.

Guess you never owned a company. I did. I get it way more than you do

FlyToFight 08-01-2022 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Twr199 (Post 3471075)
Pay more and offer a contact worth staying for. Get it?

Apparently you don’t. Try a little research. 250,000 is a hell of a lot more than most

FlyToFight 08-01-2022 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3470829)
Why doesn’t United, Delta or FedEx make their pilots sign a training agreement?

Why doesn’t Republic or Endeavor make their pilots sign a training agreement?

The same way the military pays for your flight training but the airlines don’t. Fight it all you want, be as negative as you want, no one cares


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