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highfarfast 05-22-2022 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3427874)
PBS has been in Envoy’s CBA for years, they could’ve implemented it years ago. We’re just now cashing in on it with other contractual improvements and negotiating how PBS will look here.

Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…

3400 05-23-2022 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3427968)
Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…

Read the rest of my sentence…

highfarfast 05-23-2022 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by 3400 (Post 3428105)
Read the rest of my sentence…

I did. And then I did again. You make it sound as if it’s a good thing…

threeighteen 05-23-2022 06:46 AM

The only people cashing in on PBS is management.

rickair7777 05-23-2022 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3428185)
The only people cashing in on PBS is management.


PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

Throwitaway 05-23-2022 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3428186)
PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.

WHACKMASTER 05-23-2022 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 3428203)
A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.

PBS and “great” is also an oxymoron. If you ever want to get staired down in a bar, utter those exact words around a group of pilots who have good line bidding.

Excargodog 05-23-2022 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3428186)
PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

I agree. Of course in addition to the contractual controls you need to actually take the time to understand how it works as do the negotiators who negotiate those contractual controls.

I find it amusing how many pilots - even senior pilots with years of experience - farm their bidding out to bidding services rather than just learning how to make the system work for their own bidding.

Their ignorance supports an entire cottage industry.

https://pbsbiddingstrategies.com/pbs-monthly-pricing/

https://pbsgurus.com

https://www.bidliner.com/how-it-works



https://planebids.com/schedule-now

kevin18 05-23-2022 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3428217)
I agree. Of course in addition to the contractual controls you need to actually take the time to understand how it works as do the negotiators who negotiate those contractual controls.

I find it amusing how many pilots - even senior pilots with years of experience - farm their bidding out to bidding services rather than just learning how to make the system work for their own bidding.

Their ignorance supports an entire cottage industry.

https://pbsbiddingstrategies.com/pbs-monthly-pricing/

https://pbsgurus.com

https://www.bidliner.com/how-it-works



https://planebids.com/schedule-now

It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.

Excargodog 05-23-2022 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 3428260)
It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.

it’s also the difference between understanding how to get the best you can from PBS and trying to convey to someone else what you want so they can get make their best guess of what you want. Big difference.


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