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kangaroopilot 06-18-2022 11:33 PM
Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3442531)
More Aussies and 1500hr Cessna pilots…
Yes. There are literally dozens of us! I’ll see you in class soon. Crikey!

ImSoSuss 06-20-2022 07:16 AM
Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3442519)
Hopefully other regionals outside of AA WO start offering similar pay / incentives to stay.

So that leaves the question how will LCC carriers respond? Either they can update their contracts substantially and the regional exodus will continue or they can start general hiring of Commercial Multi pilots outside of the select few flight schools that have that opportunity now. Heard stories LCC interview groups have people still on IOE at their regional so really how far away are we from that anyway?

If a year 2 FO at a regional is making CA pay at $146, that is about year 4-6 FO pay at an LCC roughly.
There is a merger war going on right now. As they stated themselves, there will be no new contracts while that is going on.

jetlag q 06-20-2022 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3444265)
There is a merger war going on right now. As they stated themselves, there will be no new contracts while that is going on.

what indications are you seeing that makes you believe mergers on gonna happen? Outside of spirit and big blue.

rickair7777 06-21-2022 06:44 AM
Originally Posted by jetlag q (Post 3444676)
what indications are you seeing that makes you believe mergers on gonna happen? Outside of spirit and big blue.
B6 + NK in and of itself is an indication that other mergers are more probable. Few want to get left without a dance partner once the party starts.

Merger appetites vary depending on whether you're a shareholder, board member, or company exec. Ultimately the shareholders can drive the board to do something that managers would rather not do (because it will cost them their jobs). But it depends on the specific corporate dynamics.

ImSoSuss 06-21-2022 07:05 AM
Originally Posted by jetlag q (Post 3444676)
what indications are you seeing that makes you believe mergers on gonna happen? Outside of spirit and big blue.
You left out Frontier in that dace. What is left? Allegent? Sun Country? They both just got new TAs. SWA? They really aren't in the same league as their pay is much higher than any of these other LCC/ULCCs. So when you ask "How are these LCCs going to respond?" What are you left with? Frontier, Spirit, and Jet Blue.

PotatoChip 06-21-2022 07:09 AM
Well, B6 has already internally stated that they are going to combat attrition by doubling down on culture. So there’s that.

ImSoSuss 06-21-2022 07:11 AM
Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3444832)
Well, B6 has already internally stated that they are going to combat attrition by doubling down on culture. So there’s that.
lol, that sounds like fun. Spirit is trying to combat attrition by promising new "synergies".

jetlag q 06-21-2022 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3444832)
Well, B6 has already internally stated that they are going to combat attrition by doubling down on culture. So there’s that.
How many gallons of ⛽️ Can you buy with a double dose of culture. Asking for a friend driving a Tesla.


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