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coldpilot 06-22-2007 09:22 AM

Tribute to Regional Airline Pilots
 
This is a new one on youtube. I think the Trans States guys will enjoy it very much. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmcSWlhlykk&NR=1

flyerfly 06-22-2007 12:53 PM

Great film...I would have to agree. My time at TSA kinda sucked but the only thing I looked forward to everyday along with getting good flying experience was the people I worked with. Great pilot group and great flight attendants!!!

ExperimentalAB 06-22-2007 12:57 PM

Most of them were...yes. Most LoL. I know you know those I'm talking about haha...

rsmithadx 06-22-2007 01:06 PM

Excellent video.....I love the part on final and the spinning the camera...great effect felt like it was really happening.

Its two bad that the CEO cant properly compensate all of us Airline employees...especially those who's job entails mega amounts of trainning.

dbrockman2 06-22-2007 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by rsmithadx (Post 183935)
Excellent video.....I love the part on final and the spinning the camera...great effect felt like it was really happening.

Its two bad that the CEO cant properly compensate all of us Airline employees...especially those who's job entails mega amounts of trainning.


That was GREAT!!! I want to find the guy who made this and shake his hand.

flyerfly 06-22-2007 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 183929)
Most of them were...yes. Most LoL. I know you know those I'm talking about haha...

Yea sorry about that one...I forgot about that captain. Would you believe it though? I had a trip with him right before I left and I actually had a good time. Who would have thought?

Dashdog 06-23-2007 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 183846)
This is a new one on youtube. I think the Trans States guys will enjoy it very much. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmcSWlhlykk&NR=1

I hope this wasn't anyone on this forum. This film is a pretty good example of what happens when you put kids in airliners. It's OK to have fun flying, but if you're going to be immature and unprofessional, at least don't be dumb enough to catch it all on film including a clear shot of yourself, your crew and your aircraft N number. I'm pretty sure that there are no FOM's out there that allow video-taping during any portion of flight. Are you certain no one from management will ever see this tape, or do you want to get fired and never work as a pro again? Everybody on this forum is always crying about crappy pay at the regionals. If you want to get paid as a professional, act like one. And BTW, how is this a "tribute" to anything?

TriStar_drvr 06-23-2007 09:12 PM

I liked the Jackson Browne song. What a great album that was. Do you realize it is nearly thirty years old? Damn, I'm getting old...

soon2bfo 06-23-2007 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by coldpilot (Post 183846)
This is a new one on youtube. I think the Trans States guys will enjoy it very much. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Probably should remove the link to help out whoever made that video. Probably a sh!t storm coming for that guy. But who videos their n number and face?

Aviatormar 06-24-2007 01:53 AM

Come on....
 
Wow, why is airline flying so hardcore about being so uptight? Can anyone tell me the reason? I know, I know, we're professional and we should advance our careers by making more money and this doesn't show that we are "professional", but let me ask, what about the surgon who plays music while he does an open heart transpant? Can you honestly say he is less skilled or is less "professional" then the guy who made this video while he cracks jokes to everyone while having a knife on someone? Come on, get over yourself, lighten up, have a good time doing whatever your doing and relax.

MD-11Loader 06-24-2007 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 184366)
I hope this wasn't anyone on this forum. This film is a pretty good example of what happens when you put kids in airliners. It's OK to have fun flying, but if you're going to be immature and unprofessional, at least don't be dumb enough to catch it all on film including a clear shot of yourself, your crew and your aircraft N number. I'm pretty sure that there are no FOM's out there that allow video-taping during any portion of flight. Are you certain no one from management will ever see this tape, or do you want to get fired and never work as a pro again? Everybody on this forum is always crying about crappy pay at the regionals. If you want to get paid as a professional, act like one. And BTW, how is this a "tribute" to anything?

I fully agree with you. These guys should be fired. When you are on final you should be focused on the landing, not spinning the damn camera to look like you rolled the bird.

Dashdog 06-24-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Aviatormar (Post 184484)
Wow, why is airline flying so hardcore about being so uptight? Can anyone tell me the reason? I know, I know, we're professional and we should advance our careers by making more money and this doesn't show that we are "professional", but let me ask, what about the surgon who plays music while he does an open heart transpant? Can you honestly say he is less skilled or is less "professional" then the guy who made this video while he cracks jokes to everyone while having a knife on someone? Come on, get over yourself, lighten up, have a good time doing whatever your doing and relax.

The guy in the video wasn't playing music while he was working. That comparison doesn't make sense. A better comparison would be two surgeons working together with one holding a video camera instead of paying attention to the job at hand. The reason there are two of us up there is to crosscheck and verify, which clearly wasn't happening in the video. I agree that we can relax and have a good time while flying, but the job is what it is and having fun comes secondary. As for surgeons, they crack lots of jokes on TV, but in real life, they stay focused on what they're doing.

Flyboy8784 06-24-2007 07:32 AM

Id say that you need to have a balance between having fun and being serious. If you cant have fun in this industry. Then you really dont love flying. However, The last thing you want to do is show management how much fun you are having protecting 50 people on a 25 million dollar jet....especially showing faces/tail numbers.

elcid79 06-24-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Dashdog (Post 184503)
As for surgeons, they crack lots of jokes on TV, but in real life, they stay focused on what they're doing.

Do you actually know any doctors, and have you ever sat in on a surgery???

elcid79 06-24-2007 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 184516)
Id say that you need to have a balance between having fun and being serious. If you cant have fun in this industry. Then you really dont love flying. However, The last thing you want to do is show management how much fun you are having protecting 50 people on a 25 million dollar jet....especially showing faces/tail numbers.

Very true....

Dashdog 06-24-2007 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 184528)
Do you actually know any doctors, and have you ever sat in on a surgery???

My wife is a doctor who does surgery.

Aviatormar 06-24-2007 09:08 AM

Do I know any doctors, ummm let's see....
 
Mom is a doctor, Dad is a doctor, brother is a doctor, brother's wife is a doctor, sister is going to be a doctor, so, you can say I've herd some stories and guess what? I broke the mold. Please don't tell me about doctors and their lifestyles. First off everyone single one is a RELAXED professional, and yes, gasp! some of them do dumb stuff too. Want a story about doctor "professionalism"? How about the doctor who left a scalpel in the wound after he was done? Not professional enough? The best part is the whole time he had himself video taped!!!!! Why you may ask? This wasn’t the first time it happened. Let's not play the card that mighty pilots don't do dumb things too. (By the way, said doctor was disbarred from practicing medicine after that, and the patient was fine, never knew it happened.) I'll spot everyone on one thing, yes the tail number and faces were dumb, sure, but everyone still needs to relax and hopefully nothing will happen to this guy.

swaayze 06-24-2007 09:13 AM

Sorry folks but they're right. In cruise is one thing, but taping the landing and filming F16s off to the side before the nosewheel is down is very unprofessional. Rumor is that we just had an Eagle FO canned for a youtube video (took all of about a week I think), so don't be surprised if this guy shows up with him on the unemployment line soon. You can't just do whatever you want in an airliner.

coldpilot 06-24-2007 09:30 AM

Hey guys I didn't mean to open up a can of worms here, just thought it was a cool video. Were there some distateful things in it? Yes. I think it was dumb to show their faces. As far as spinning the camera on final, I'm not sure some of you have valid arguments. How many videos are out there that were taken from the right seat of an airliner while it was on short final. Several, many of them have had links posted here in the forums. I think the only reason you think it was distasteful was because the pilot spun the camera, give me a break. Overall it was a well made film.

JoeyMeatballs 06-24-2007 11:49 AM

Terrible Quality, horrible song, dorky looking F/O..........maybe I should a make one of these things..........

Aviatormar 06-24-2007 12:13 PM

Exactly right saab

Freightpuppy 06-24-2007 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by elcid79 (Post 184528)
Do you actually know any doctors, and have you ever sat in on a surgery???

I do and some of them act more like fools than some pilots.

Bernoulli Fan 06-26-2007 07:23 AM

N Number
 
Whether the posting pilot was foolish is up for debate, but I'd just like to throw in that the N number blatantly displayed in one shot is not his plane's actual N number. It's pretty clear it was Photoshopped.

In fact, if you watch the video carefully, there are two other instances where the ID card is visible in pan shots, and you can tell that there are subtle differences between the real N number and the prominently displayed one. For what it's worth...

planecrazyjenn 06-26-2007 09:38 AM


As for surgeons, they crack lots of jokes on TV, but in real life, they stay focused on what they're doing.
Yeah...that just doesn't always happen. :D I could tell you some interesting stories about what happens in veterinary medicine. Does that mean that we don't stay professional and get the job done? Absolutely not. Emergency medicine is high stress...it WILL eat you up if you don't find a way to laugh and have fun. However you have to stay focused on the job at hand and realize it's an animals life that your dealing with. Doing dangerous things is a different story and one I will not personally tolerate.

As for the video, it's certainly not the only one out there. Search on youtube and you'll find a bunch shot from the cockpit. Relax and have fun guys.

POPA 06-26-2007 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bernoulli Fan (Post 185356)
Whether the posting pilot was foolish is up for debate, but I'd just like to throw in that the N number blatantly displayed in one shot is not his plane's actual N number. It's pretty clear it was Photoshopped.

In fact, if you watch the video carefully, there are two other instances where the ID card is visible in pan shots, and you can tell that there are subtle differences between the real N number and the prominently displayed one. For what it's worth...

The video was shot from different planes, big guy. The only place that you'll find the N-number of one of TSA's planes on the instrument panel is on that ID card where it is, as you put it, "prominently displayed."
I'd sure be interested in how you decided that the ID tags were "clearly" photoshopped.

Slice 06-26-2007 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 185401)
The video was shot from different planes, big guy. The only place that you'll find the N-number of one of TSA's planes on the instrument panel is on that ID card where it is, as you put it, "prominently displayed."
I'd sure be interested in how you decided that the ID tags were "clearly" photoshopped.

Probably trying to 'clearly' save his ass.:D

LeoSV 06-26-2007 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by rsmithadx (Post 183935)
Excellent video.....I love the part on final and the spinning the camera...great effect felt like it was really happening.

Its two bad that the CEO cant properly compensate all of us Airline employees...especially those who's job entails mega amounts of trainning.

somebody made a comment thinking they actually did an aileron roll.. lol

waflyboy 06-26-2007 07:00 PM

Can you say Sterile Cockpit violation?

ExperimentalAB 06-26-2007 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by waflyboy (Post 185652)
Can you say Sterile Cockpit violation?

Like you've NEVER violated Sterile-Cockpit?! :rolleyes:

TonyWilliams 06-26-2007 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 185753)
Like you've NEVER violated Sterile-Cockpit?! :rolleyes:

Which, of course, has no bearing on whether the production of the film violates either company policy or FAR's.

Providing managment and the FAA with identifying information is probably a bad plan.

JoeyMeatballs 06-27-2007 04:31 AM

We just got an FIL about videos in the flight deck................

Deez340 06-27-2007 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 185773)
We just got an FIL about videos in the flight deck................

"FIL"? I have a friend in the FAA and they pursue these things when they're brought to their attention.

JoeyMeatballs 06-27-2007 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 185776)
"FIL"? I have a friend in the FAA and they pursue these things when they're brought to their attention.

"FLight Information Letter", just got an ALPA Blastmail about it too, the FAA is not taking this lightly............

POPA 06-27-2007 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 185777)
"FLight Information Letter", just got an ALPA Blastmail about it too, the FAA is not taking this lightly............

We just got a company memo about it.

POPA 06-27-2007 06:03 AM

I know I got blasted for saying that kid who buzzed his high school should lose his ticket, but I'm going to have to go ahead and recommend this course of action here, too.

ExperimentalAB 06-27-2007 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 185758)
Which, of course, has no bearing on whether the production of the film violates either company policy or FAR's.

Providing managment and the FAA with identifying information is probably a bad plan.

Agreed - If I were to take in-flight video, you can bet I would DE-IDENTIFY everything. Hell...I would never PUBLISH it on YouTube!!

Slice 06-27-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 185859)
Agreed - If I were to take in-flight video, you can bet I would DE-IDENTIFY everything. Hell...I would never PUBLISH it on YouTube!!

SJS kills, maybe a career in the case. If nothing else, the Capt should have known better than to let him self be filmed! I'm sure he didn't think he'd end up on the web, but I'd never let a FO shoot a movie of me.

AV8ER 06-27-2007 10:51 AM

Just ask the fed sitting in the jumseat to hold the camera....

waflyboy 06-27-2007 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 185753)
Like you've NEVER violated Sterile-Cockpit?! :rolleyes:

Never while showing my ugly mug (and that of my CA) to the free world in Technicolor!

Deez340 06-27-2007 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by waflyboy (Post 186147)
Never while showing my ugly mug (and that of my CA) to the free world in Technicolor!

good one!:D


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