American Eagle?
 

What aircraft does Eagle fly out of ORD? How is chicago as a base? Thanks for the help.

CRJ or ERJ. Take the ERJ, much better schedules and variety.

As a base it is great. Great crews. The chief pilots are a good bunch and are straight with you. Expect an EDCT time every other leg though.

thanks for the help! What is an EDCT time though?

EDCT = Expect Departure Clearance Time. In other words ground delays due to:

-traffic
-weather
-nonstandard runway configuration
-enroute delays
-normal operations

My record flying into ORD was a 13 hr EDCT due to "ground movement saturation from deicing events" (IE lack of gate space)

ok, should have figured that one out, I was in JFK for a bit so I know what that is all about. Thanks for the help. What is reserve life like in ORD?

If you need an internal reference let me know. I get $500 and I will split it with you. Always thinking ahead.

american eagle school
 

Eagle pilots,


how is the school? Are the instructors good? will we be well prepared for the checkride.etc!!!

The Training Center at AA/AE HQ is one of the best in the business. Training is definitely above average for a regional. Instructors are all knowledgeable and experienced. You should be more than prepared for the checkride, so dont worry!

I'm considering applying at Eagle and I would like to know how long the instruction takes? How many weeks do indoc, systems, and sims take? Does it run one right after another or is the training broken up? I've also read that Eagle is allowing new hires to choose bases and equipment. Maybe that has changed now, but what type of equipment goes with what base? If given the chance, I would prefer the ERJ, but is that a DFW plane? Thanks for the heads up in advance.

I'll go to Eagle if I can have $400. You'll still come out ahead.

If your wanting DFW you will most likely get assigned the Saab. 2 of our instructors just got hired on here in Dallas. I did a 172 checkout with an ERJ f/o today who told me they are really hurting for pilots right now and could probably get on with 500 or so TT. (Of course he's been an f/o for over 6 years :eek::eek::eek:)

I just finished training. It started to go into 8wks at the end with the LOFT. I thought it was a tad longer then it needed to be. Apparently the training center thinks so too. They told us they were in the process of rewriting the program to shorten it. It was a week and a half day of indoc. 3wks and 2 and half days of systems. 2 days of CSI(Cockpit systems interegration) 2 full wks of sim. In all the check ride was fine. No problems. You get weekends off. BOS LGA ERJ ORD CRJ ERJ DFW Saab ERJ CRJ LAX Saab ERJ MIA SJU ATR Good luck.

What is the reserve time in ORD for Eagle? What is the upgrade time? I am at a different regional but am seriously considering Eagle to be based in ORD. Any help would be much appreciated.

Upgrades are currently running about 7 years, I am guessing reserve in chicago will be approx 5 months. For the month of July they are already in single digits for ORD RSV FOs on the ERJ.

7 years??? my god. Any info on the CRJ? That is what I fly now so the transition would probably be easier.

SkyWest?

SkyWest?

Upgrade times at Eagle are comming down quickly, they're running something like 40 a month through the quick course. And remember there are no 6 year FOs - Eagle didn't hire off the street for quite a while after 9/11. So 4 and 5 year FOs will be upgraded in '07. Barring major changes in the Airline environment, if you're hired at Eagle today, you could reasonably expect to see an upgrade in 3 to 5 years.

Reserve at ORD is minimal. I had a pal hold a composite line after 3 months on line. In BOS I'm holding a composite line after 6 months on line.

The CRJ is a senior aircraft, there are only 25 CRJs in the system, half in ORD, half in DFW. (There will not be any new aircraft at Eagle until AMR & APA sign a new contract, which will take years.) So it is a much smaller community than the ERJ fleet, which means fewer options in terms of lines, open time, trades, etc. But the CRJ-700 is a very nice airplane. I found the transition from the CRJ to ERJ to be not too difficult. The hardest part was forgeting the call outs from my previous carrier, and remembering the Eagle calls instead.

However, its a moot point, Eagle allows you to choose your domicile, but not equipment. You will be assigned the ERJ or CRJ in ORD depending on Eagle's immediate needs. There are no lateral equipment transfers at Eagle. You can go from a prop to a jet, but not prop to prop, jet to prop, or jet to jet. You can go from any FO to any CA, but not vice versa. As CA you can go from the SAAB to ATR, to ERJ, to CRJ, but never backwards.

I quit PSA and a commute to CLT, to fly for Eagle and be based at home in BOS. I do not regret giving up a year and a half seniority and going back to 1st year pay, again, because the benefits of living in base so far outweigh those considerations. The ability to proffer for reserve trips, short stay on reserve, and vasttly superior crew scheduling are all bonuses.

Considering Eagle
 

Hi, I currently have about 460TT and only about 6 Multi, but I am going to be doing a 100hr multi time building program in about a month and a half. I live in the DFW area and would love to fly for Eagle. I was just wondering if I might have a shot of getting on in Nov./Dec. with about 600TT and 100 Multi??

You could have a shot. Have you gone to any of their Career fairs? Fill out the airline apps and keep it updated

Indoc is one week. Systems go for about 4 weeks. Sims go for two weeks which includes a type ride at the end. Training runs until completed.

IOE for about 25 hours.

Training is great. Professionally done.

Eagle is letting new hires choose base/equipment.

CRJ DFW & ORD

ERJ ORD, DFW, BOS, LGA, & LA?

ATR San Juan, MIA, & LA?

Saab DFW & ???

I'm not sure what is based in LA.

Haven't gone to any yet due to my lack of multi time...I know they are having one with ATP in July, I think guys have been getting hired with pretty low times at the job fairs, thats actually what I was planning on doing after I build some multi time

Yes, DFW has the CRJ, ERJ and Saab. The past two new hire classes have had DFW ERJ slots. They must be filling up the Saab slots in DFW. I heard the class that started today had 6 people choosing DFW and they all got the jet.

Are there any restrictions at Eagle about switching equipment, like ATR to ERJ?

NO.
You CAN go from Prop to Jet but not viceversa unless its for CA upgrade.;)

Is there any other way to apply to Eagle other than www.airlineapps.com ?
Thanks

Nope, sorry. You gotta take the time and fill that out.

On a side note anyone applying that wants an internal recommendation, I'll be glad to give them and give you 50% of the after tax value of the referal bonus. Just drop me a PM.

Right now there are many upgrades going on. That is because the AA guys are being called back. There were about 400 of them here. Not sure how many are still around. But once all the flowback are gone and all the 6-9 year fo's get there upgrade then it will go back to 1-5 upgrades per month. There needs to be growth to see upgrades below 4 years.

Thanks
 

Thanks!- I still dont meet their mins but want to let them know I am interested in case they do start hiring lower. Thanks again, I will just pay the $ to send them my resume. :)

You should think about going to the career fair coming up in MIA. They will be there...and you can hand over a resume in person!!

http://www.climbto350.com/aviation-career-fairs.cfm

You only have to pay if you want to send a resume to more than one airline... unless airlineapps has changed. I didn't pay anything when I sent in mine.

I think we're pretty firm on the 100 multi but don't quote me on that one.
Good luck and hope to see you here soon!

I'll second that. I had a few students get conditional hires at AE that were very close to 100 multi, but not quite there. Eagle wanted those hours in the book before they could get a class date.

So...I was thinking about leaving PDT for Eagle because PDT's upgrade is nonexistant. What will Eagle's upgrade be like for a new hire based on these current upgrade projections of 45/mo? Will it upgrade the 4-5 year FO's at most and then go back to being stagnant (i.e. a new hire now will still be looking at a 5 year upgrade)?



Also, what's their contract like...min days off/mo, block-or-better pay?, paid cancelations, crew meals, jr manning, etc.

What would the chances of getting BOS as a base? are they pretty much assuring you of your choice of base before you're hired? how long would reserve be in BOS and what equipment/routes do they fly.

I know a lot of questions, but it's a big move for me and I'd like to get all the info I can before jumping ship...thanks!!!

Umm...you were thinking of coming to Eagle to IMPROVE your upgrade time..??:confused::confused:

Might want to go check out the airline profile section first near the upper right hand corner.
It gives great information about most regionals. :)

True, but I was hoping for more than the numbers on the most junior CA, like what people's thoughts were on AA calling back their guys and what it might mean for upgrades for current new-hires.

I know it sounds crazy, but I am only Thinking about it, no app out or anything. I was just wondering what people's thoughts were on their upgrade changing from what it is now to something better, plus all the other questions I put in that post too. PDT may not even be around anymore when my number is up to upgrade

Heard it from a Eagle ERJ f/o - still looking at at least 5 yrs on the RJ and probably close to the same on the Saab. But he said they are definitely hurting for pilots. He said things are improving...but take that with a grain of salt

On a side note - besides upgrade, how do you like PDT?

Eagles current upgrades are about 7yrs, I am guessing it will drop to about 4-5yrs if you were hired today. In the future it might drop even lower IF AMR decides to expand Eagle. I cant forsee any expansion until after APA's contract is done (2009-2010) and after that, the Eagle contract is up for negotiations 2012. In other words, the next few years are going to be very volatile.

Our min days off are 11 on Reserve, 12 for a lineholder. You get your line guarantee that you bid for, or better. Cancellations are paid (youll never get paid less than your bid guarantee). Crew Meals? Hah! Jr Manning is a daily occurence if you are DFW or ORD based. I am BOS based and havent been JMed in the 3yrs I have been here. LGA and LAX are pretty safe too.

In BOS we fly the ERJ. When you go to the interview you tell them what base you want and they give it to you, so yes you would know right there and be guaranteed Boston. Most of the northeast flying is up and down the east coast. I would say 75% of the flying is some combination of LGA, JFK, DCA, RDU, BOS. Reserve in BOS is currently at about 4-5 months. Hope this helps!

Big help, Thanks a lot!

This may be a dumb question, but...would it be in any way possible by some fluke or something for someone to maybe be able to take night classes a few nights a week with the types of schedules you guys have being based out of BOS? I know probablly not, but my dream right now is to somehow figure out how I can go back to school and keep an airline job somehow...

PDT is great besides the upgrade and dim future...Crews are the best in the business, the Dash is an incredible airplane to fly (I will really miss it when I leave), contract is decent (good pay protections, crew meals, etc), LGA sucks (mostly just out-and-backs, expensive crash pad living), reserve time is practically nothing right now and hard lines out of LGA run about 15-17 days off per month. Plus we've been so short, they've been giving out "double premium pay" to people picking up open flying (that's what you block + 8 more hrs on top of that)...guys are racking it in right now

There are a lot of good things about this place, but the few bad things are big ones, like a future or an upgrade ever...plus I'm from Boston and having a company just give me that base is a nice thought.

Hey, how tough is it to hold LGA for PDT right out of training?????