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SonicFlyer 11-23-2022 12:37 PM

ALPA: Pilot Supply Now Stronger Than Demand
 
https://simpleflying.com/united-stat...r-than-demand/

game 11-23-2022 03:26 PM

Saw an ad online from JetBlue encouraging general aviation pilots with 1,500 TT to apply.

bonvoyage 11-23-2022 05:37 PM

Wonder what regional will be the first to reduce pay rates back towards something normal for a regional?

jakeinthesky 11-23-2022 06:02 PM

I support ALPA and the message here that pay is what will keep pilots in seats (and personally I believe seniority numbers is the only thing at the regional level in this hiring environment but besides the point) but, the truth is this number issued is pretty close to the status quo for the last 5 years and even less than some of those years past. Our numbers are skewed by foreign pilots who will return home, as well as those that fly under a commercial certificate personally for insurance benefits, and not to mention those who will fly professionally but under 91 or 135.

PorkyMcFuzz 11-23-2022 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by jakeinthesky (Post 3536794)
I support ALPA and the message here that pay is what will keep pilots in seats (and personally I believe seniority numbers is the only thing at the regional level in this hiring environment but besides the point) but, the truth is this number issued is pretty close to the status quo for the last 5 years and even less than some of those years past. Our numbers are skewed by foreign pilots who will return home, as well as those that fly under a commercial certificate personally for insurance benefits, and not to mention those who will fly professionally but under 91 or 135.

This is true. Once the music stops and hiring slows/stops - which it will - and visas are no longer being issued a lot of guys will have to head home again and will thin the numbers at a bunch of regionals and ULCCs.

rickair7777 11-24-2022 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3536781)
Wonder what regional will be the first to reduce pay rates back towards something normal for a regional?

The first one which needs to take concessions to keep "their" flying.

You'll know the glory days are over when somebody starts up a new regional to come in and undercut the old ones. Seen this movie before :rolleyes:

PilotBases 11-24-2022 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3536875)
The first one which needs to take concessions to keep "their" flying.

You'll know the glory days are over when somebody starts up a new regional to come in and undercut the old ones. Seen this movie before :rolleyes:

Hulas will set one up from his retirement home, mark my words.

BrazilBusDriver 11-24-2022 06:57 PM

Who knew you could undercut silver?

VegasChris 11-25-2022 06:01 AM

Do the retirement ATPs automatically covert back to a CAX?

If so their numbers are going to be inflated with retirees that are not going to work.

Smooth at FL450 11-25-2022 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by VegasChris (Post 3537274)
Do the retirement ATPs automatically covert back to a CAX?

If so their numbers are going to be inflated with retirees that are not going to work.

No. . The pilot certification level does not change as it has no upper age limit. They simply can’t fly under part 121 but can under 91 & 135 rules.


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