Who is hiring 1500hr street FO's?
 

Which regionals are currently hiring 1500 hour street FO's?

I haven't found any.

piedmont. 2 months from interview to class.

Might need to go and get some time elsewhere until they start hiring. Something like Ameriflight where you can get multiengine turbine PIC.

It wasn't that long ago when you couldn't get hired at a regional at bare minimums, and we are back there again. I know plenty of pilots that were not hired at regionals because they didnt have enough multi time. I had about 750 multi turbine when I got my first regional airline job.

Passenger 121 airlines should never really be a starting job for pilots. In the past, it was flying checks, cargo, and small charter outfits that were used to build time before an airline would hire you. Going straight from CFI to Regional is a new occurance, and hopefully one that will never happen again.

HAL will happily take you.

I remember a thread just a few months back discussing this issue.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/r...ing-hired.html

oh, wait...

No, you just have not found one willing to hire you. My own snide remarks aside here, it's time to do some self-reflecting, research, résumé/prep company work, etc.

Wait it out or look elsewhere. Check out other part 135 companies like Ameriflight (which I believe has already been suggested).

Piedmont, Envoy, Skywest, and Republic are hiring outside of Cadet Programs. I have no turbine time, 25 multi, and have CJOs from Piedmont and Envoy. I have no degree and a check ride failure. Just keep updating your hours. My apps have sat at some places for nearly 6 months before being called. It might not be your first choice, but WheelsUp is hiring. They will sponsor ATP/CTP too.

how long from published application until first contact for interview?

Really??? But are those hours truly competitive?

Having a CJO and actually starting class are 2 totally different things. You may have a CJO, and they will put you in a class if they have extra room, but be sure that you are not their ideal candidate. You are just a warm body that will fill a seat unless someone more qualified comes along.

Silver. No contract, good place to get your ATP and build some time while flying an ATR. Considering nobody else is calling, I'm excited to start flying in April for them.

the next day. No failures or stage check failures tho

I've heard that the ATR is an incredibly difficult plane to learn, coupled with the fact that Silver isn't AQP. I hear that they have a very high fail rate. Is any of this true?

What was your total time? SkyWest sent TBNT, PDT hasn't replied, and I will not be subject to the RPA punitive contract.

I can't live on $63k/yr otherwise I would consider it.

It's not the Indians, it's the arrow
 

It's better than Zero or CFI at $28 an hour. we all have to put our dues in.

Beggar can't be chooser.

Like previously mentioned, go to 135, build some time and gain experience if 121 aren't calling you back. You can have 1,500 or 2,500 hours and they aren't hiring, will you sit on the side instructing still?

IDK how to break it to you ... but there's not some secret place where all the $100K/yr entry level 121 jobs hide.

You're fighting a bunch of type A 23yo eager-beavers who will move where the jobs are and take what they can get.

"Street first officers?" Seriously?

Can't live on 63,000...considering not so many years ago first officers were making less than 15,000, you may have always been doomed for the gutter. Best to go find a silver spoon somewhere, instead of the lowly wages of a forlorn pilot.

Before you focus on learning to fly the airplane, focus on learning to live within your means. It may be a critical skill for you, in aviation.

In his defense ... what I THINK that means is first officers who are not near 121 upgrade minimums. So an F16 pilot and a 3500 hour seneca night cargo pilot would both also count as "street FO's"

Not really new. It was happening back in the mid-late 90s, except that back then you didn't need an ATP. Places like Mesa were taking people with around 500 hours total and a smattering of multiengine time. Of course, back then, the regionals were all still mostly flying Beech 1900s and Saab 340s and the like.

A "street captain" is one who enters employment as a direct-entry, without serving as a first officer. "Street captain" differentiates a new-hire captain from one who previously served as a first officer with that operator.

A "street first officer" (no such term) would be a first officer who enters employment as a direct-entry, without ever having served in a lower capacity (another employment by that operator). The only other way in would be a cadet program, so a normal hire is hired off the street. There's no such thing as a "street first officer," which is why it made me laugh.

An F16 pilot with 1,500 hours who is hired without serving in another capacity with the operator is a new-hire. There's no such thing as a "street first officer."

A 3,500 hour seneca night cargo pilot is irrelevant, as the original poster enquired about a 1,500 hour "street first officer," but if that seneca night cargo pilot had only 1,500 hours, then (s)he would be a new hire, just like anybody else, because normal hiring is "off the street," and there is no such thing as a "street first officer."

SMDH
Filler...

Difficult as compared to what? Going from simple training aircart to any complex jet or turbojet aircraft will be difficult but I have not gathered that Silver's failure rate is anything worth comparing to other regionals. Everything that I have learned from my sources is that the ATR is a very fun aircrat to fly in a fun envrionment. It is all relative.

I dont need to repeat what others have said but good luck. At this rate in this market I will gladly take it, with no contract, an ATP cert, and some caribbean flying. Just a thought for those looking to move on from CFI and tired of waitin on a "class date to be announced".

I'm not 20, I actually have a house and financial responsibilities. So no, $63k a year isn't doable. Also I work at a 135 right now making more than that, but with no chance of upgrading. It's not where I want to be so I'm trying to move up to a 121 operator.

I don't dispute that.

But to my knowledge there is no slang for a person who is close to 121.436(3) requirements for upgrade.
My point was tha many people who are otherwise highly competitive for regional hiring do not meet that standard.

The regionals paying more than that, to my knowledge, are EDV, PSA, Envoy, rpa, and maybe pdt and oo? Basically most, but the fos they are hiring are cadets.
Id recommend edv if you had a choice... Amazing company. Get as many cjo/hiring pools as you can and continue current job.
Or downsize on cost of living to be able to get 121 time at 63k a year.

Yep applied to all the regionals that I can commute to, besides PSA and Republic. Chaining myself up for 5 years in a contract is downright idiotic, and the culture at PSA is so toxic I'm scared that the training department there could damage my record.

One does what one must. If that means getting a second job, do that. Many 121 pilots have their own business or a "side hustle," which runs the gamut; you name it. I've known pilots who did everything from edit porn videos to have consulting or retail businesses, to building airplanes for others, to cleaning theaters and night, doing law enforcement and other jobs, some in, some out of aviation. Whatever it takes.

My brother, in another profession, was hiring a professional, entry-level, fresh out of school. She complained that his offered salary (industry standard) wouldn't cover her loan repayments, as she owed about 500,000. He noted that it was true, but that at her level, she couldn't bring in enough revenue to match what he was paying her, and she'd have to work a second or third job, just like everyone else (just like he did). One does what one must. Whatever it takes.

Airlines not hiring? Find somewhere that is.

Who has a 5 year contract??

[MENTION=13642]Sliceback[/MENTION] Republic has one that based on realistic estimates for time required to upgrade, then satisfy the required time as a captain in the contract, it's about 5 years.

you would have to really avoid flying to take 5 years. I, and most every person from my class and friends are between 70-90/month. One real busy dude is at 95. DCA new pilots seem to be the slowest but everyone I know has a line so 75 hours

80 hours a month is 13 months to upgrade -CA pay at 850. A month in CA class then 2 years as CA.

thank you. How long is the training footprint? How long is reserve, especially for bases like BOS?

BOS is a terrible base as we're extrem FO heavy. No way to get assigned it unless your a CA.
LGA isn't great either, its like 1.5-2 yrs to a line.

I have friends and classmates at every other base and we all have lines. No one was on reserve more than 5 months I think

Training is pretty quick, if I remember it was 1 wilk for ATPCTP, 2 there for indoc, 2 home for sys, 4 back for trainers and sims. Week off then right to IOE.

​​​​​​Right now it sounds like we're hiring for May/June.

What are the requirements of the contract? You can't leave for 5 years or you have to repay the training bond?

The basic requirement to fulfill the deal is 2 years as CA or 5 years total. There is a non-compete clause that is quite punitive.

For more specifics, see below. Page 7, Post#61. NJflyguy does a great job with updates.
Teamsters law suit over new hire contract - Page 7 - Airline Pilot Central Forums (airlinepilotforums.com)

If you're not 20 then you should be old enough to know advancement typically requires some sort of sacrifice. Currently, what are you willing to sacrifice? You mention owning a home. Are you single, married, kids, anything else requiring you to keep that home or stay in that location? Any other ways to decrese expenses?

Have you had your applications reviewed by a third party prep company? In one instance, you stated you got a TBNT notice pretty quickly. That is indicadive of checking (or not checking) a box incorrectly. Additionally, lots of these companies have connections at various airlines to help give you a leg up.

Have you looked into FlexJet or NetJets? They are homebased carriers and will provide you an ATP along with your type. So you get to live where you live, no need to sell the house, and they pay more than $63k. I mention this because you previously stated you have the written complete but not financially able to finish the cert on your own and offer this suggestion as a potential work-around without knowing if they have any sort of bond or training contract.

Lots of advice on the internet but so far you have not presented your case very well in the eyes of the keyboard counselors here. You've been on every forum, including the majors, seemingly expecting that you're a shoe-in because you have turbine time.

this makes me laugh and reminds me of making 12000/ year a Great Lakes. Times and expectations have changed.

Thanks. That's ugly. The contracts I've seen typically cover the first year.

Yeah that's the next step. Can you make any recommendations?

FWIW - It's HAL - pronounced "nepobabyairlines" - one of the last remaining which plays that game in OT.