for what its worth, I got the "turn down" letter the other day, my time is all military turbine, not jet, 1900 TT with 450 PIC 1000 ME TT

how in the world does that bring back respect in this industry? is this what management is saying. if they did and people are buying that crap it's scary...

by the way since there is a flow up to NWA, is their a flow down to compass if something bad happens and does anyone know what that is???

Yes, it is a two-way flow. It was part of the ratification that the NWA pilots signed off on to exit bk. (though some will say unwillingly). I haven't found the specific conditions of it, but you can be sure it protects mainline jobs above all else in a furlough.

Based on what I have heard, flow is both ways. Compass pilots are eligible to flow up after 2 yrs as a captain. Should they choose to bypass the flow through, their seniority remains intact should NWA guys flow down. Otherwise the NWA guys go on top.

FWIW, the top 4 senior guys at the company are NWA furloughees. #5 is the first CPS manager on the list.

Where to start?
 

I know this doesn't mean a whole lot, but do you think it is better we all walk around with our shirts hanging out, no ties, and maybe some sneakers to boot. I know it doesn't fix things, but if ppl insist on dressing unprofessional I don't see the flying public giving us much slack either. I say dressing the part is a good idea.
What exactly do you think we should do? I am all for a good idea, but an attack just for the joy of it is pretty much useless. :rolleyes:

Flow
 

As far as the flow goes, we have been told 30 month on property and you must be a CA to flow up. If you choose not to flow once you can hold it then you are safe from being displaced by flowdowns should it occur.
On a side note we were also told that if you are a check airman or some other position that is needed and you are awarded the flow up but bypass at the request of the company to stay behind and finish line checks, intial classes, sims or what not then you will have an employee # on both sides NWA and CMP. This is until you are released to go over to NWA.
Several of the guys in my class intend on making this a final stop and don't really care to flow to NWA. Just wanted to be based at home and on the top of the seniority list.
Since our contract is not in our hands yet I can't give to many details, but I can attest to being treated 10 times better than my last job and getting 2x higher pay. So once again I say this job works better for me, maybe for some of you it doesn't, thats ok too.

Making me feel better already dude. See you in 2 weeks. Question: Found out any of the cities that will be served yet? I've only come up with IAD, DFW, CYVR, AUS so far.. just from messing around on nwa.com. (just planning my overnight debauchery already)

when did I ever say that looking like a slob was better. just because you don't wear the hat and jacket doesn't mean that you're unprofessional or professional. it just means that you aren't wearing the hat and jacket. (ie. most airlines summer uniform) If management is telling you that hats and jackets will bring some kind of respect they are just trying to make you feel better about wearing the jacket.

what slack or grief is the public giving us that it is even an issue?

if respect is lacking, it from airline management more so than the public...

Service
 

Here is the info that we have...so I guess you could say current as of the time posted.
- 1 acft on property with one more due to arrive in less than 10 days
- August 22nd due to start Official service with 3 acft

Cities starting service August 22nd
-MSP....Minneapolis (Only domicile as of this time)
-BNA....Nashville (Overnight)
-BIL....Billings
- or DFW...Dallas
-OMA....Omaha (Overnight)
-MSO....Missoula

By the end of September we should have 5 acft and 9 stations in service.

Hope that helps.