2024 Regional Pilot Cumulative Compensation
12-05-2024 | 03:26 AM
#11
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From: Semi-Retired...
They aren't equipped to stop the whipsaw unfortunately, and the RLA isn't on our side.
To Return to the thread topic......
Months 1-6 Omni $90k
Home based but gone 16-17 days straight every month
5% match on up to 10% (and capped at $10k a year)
BC&BS Family PPO $360 month
Months 6-12 Republic DEC - $110k plus $100k bonus
4% DC to 401k (it goes to 10% over time but needs to be increased)
Based at home - rarely work OT (maybe $4k this year)
BC&BS Family PPO $800 month
To Return to the thread topic......
Months 1-6 Omni $90k
Home based but gone 16-17 days straight every month
5% match on up to 10% (and capped at $10k a year)
BC&BS Family PPO $360 month
Months 6-12 Republic DEC - $110k plus $100k bonus
4% DC to 401k (it goes to 10% over time but needs to be increased)
Based at home - rarely work OT (maybe $4k this year)
BC&BS Family PPO $800 month
12-05-2024 | 07:54 AM
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In defense of the unions, they do offer significant protections regarding work rules. Yes, in years past, the unions were absolutely worthless when it came to negotiations for increased pilot pay. Hopefully it never ever goes back to that, and I don’t think it will get to the point where they will drop the wages to what they were prior to about 2015/2016. Cost of living is a lot higher now. If they do cut wages, it might easily go back to what they were right before they hiked the rates in 2022, maybe even lower than that.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
12-05-2024 | 08:54 AM
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From: A320 FO
In defense of the unions, they do offer significant protections regarding work rules. Yes, in years past, the unions were absolutely worthless when it came to negotiations for increased pilot pay. Hopefully it never ever goes back to that, and I don’t think it will get to the point where they will drop the wages to what they were prior to about 2015/2016. Cost of living is a lot higher now. If they do cut wages, it might easily go back to what they were right before they hiked the rates in 2022, maybe even lower than that.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
12-05-2024 | 09:36 AM
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In defense of the unions, they do offer significant protections regarding work rules. Yes, in years past, the unions were absolutely worthless when it came to negotiations for increased pilot pay. Hopefully it never ever goes back to that, and I don’t think it will get to the point where they will drop the wages to what they were prior to about 2015/2016. Cost of living is a lot higher now. If they do cut wages, it might easily go back to what they were right before they hiked the rates in 2022, maybe even lower than that.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
For work rules, they do help protect pilots. There’s rules for the company on just about anything. Hotels for instance. They have specific standards on where they put us. Management can’t just behave like a Wild West crap bag part 91/135 operator, and drop us into a sketchy truck stop motel which is in a moderate to high crime area with drug dealing and prostitution going on, and say “deal with it, if you don’t like it, you can go work somewhere else.” Even regionals have always been pretty good at booking us in decent to even good hotels, even before they hiked the pay rates. If there is a crime that has been committed in an area near or in the hotel, that was previously low to no crime, they move us to a different hotel. This has happened on several occasions at my shop, and i always felt like they are looking after us when they book different hotels to keep us away from sketchy areas.
At my shop on reserve, on your last day on a stretch of reserve days, if nothing is assigned to you by 5:00pm, you have ‘early release’ and can go home early, even if you were originally on reserve until midnight that night. This helps commuters a lot.
Those are just one of many examples.
12-05-2024 | 09:37 AM
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I'm not anti-union, I'm pro-choice... People should be able to choose whether they join a union, not have it forced on them. Especially when as described above the union can't seem to protect salaries (assuming that's true).
12-05-2024 | 09:14 PM
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From: CRJ FO
Bringing the Thread Back on Topic
Jan-Feb CFI at large 141:
$5,700 take home, including a solid chunk of PTO cash out.
Mar-Dec SkyWest Year 1 FO
Training March-June, Reserve June-September, Line Holder October-December
350 Block Hours Flown
$56k take home, $74k gross
Just about min guarantee plus per diem (~$3k). Funny how that math always works out. Never budget for anything beyond min guarantee folks.
$5,700 take home, including a solid chunk of PTO cash out.
Mar-Dec SkyWest Year 1 FO
Training March-June, Reserve June-September, Line Holder October-December
350 Block Hours Flown
$56k take home, $74k gross
Just about min guarantee plus per diem (~$3k). Funny how that math always works out. Never budget for anything beyond min guarantee folks.
12-10-2024 | 02:48 AM
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defending your contract is something they ARE good at, including protecting your pay.
you're confusing protecting your pay, with contract negotiations. One, the union has great power, the second not so much.
preventing another carrier from taking concessions to get more work & planes which means more faster upgrades is something they are NOT good at, because pilots vote what's best for them individually right now, without looking at the long term harm, because in most cases they see regionals as a temporary stepping stone, so who cares what happens after they're gone.
the national "unions" don't have the authority to tell an individual pilot group that they can't vote yes on concessions.
you're confusing protecting your pay, with contract negotiations. One, the union has great power, the second not so much.
preventing another carrier from taking concessions to get more work & planes which means more faster upgrades is something they are NOT good at, because pilots vote what's best for them individually right now, without looking at the long term harm, because in most cases they see regionals as a temporary stepping stone, so who cares what happens after they're gone.
the national "unions" don't have the authority to tell an individual pilot group that they can't vote yes on concessions.
Last edited by Cujo665; 12-10-2024 at 03:07 AM.
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