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Lynx Aviation - Info!
Hey all. I just wanted to send out some real info on Lynx. I know there isn't much out there yet- but coming soon. This is intended to get real information out there for people to draw there own conclusions & not a flame war.
As you know they are continuing to hire - CA and FOs. Apply through Careerbuilder.com Average 10 pilots per class.. with basically one class per month. 70 hr guar. Training in Toronto, Canada. Denver based. First plane arrived on property July 20. AC #2 & 3 following quickly thereafter. 10 aircraft due by end of December. Options for 10 more. Chief Pilot -- Dana Floyd Passenger service starts October. 650 nm radius from DEN. More destinations to be announced soon. Looking for experienced pilots - especially with mountain flying experience and turboprop time. Dash experience a big plus. FOs could potentially upgrade quickly (all are typed initally) Jet time and EFIS/FMS also helpful. This is still a start up operation - so everything is not silky smooth. This place has a huge potential to really take off and grow into a large & successful operation. If you are interested in being based in Denver and working for a company with the same culture as Frontier- then do apply. The flying is going to be lots of fun and the people are great. * Interview- the interview profile is constantly changing - so stay tuned. * Anticipated hiring through Dec + * No flow through to Frontier. They currently pay 40 hours credit during training. Not sure if that will adjust after certification. Also - its nearly 4 weeks in Toronto. Lynx also provides a rental car for every 5 pilots on average. So you are not stranded in the hotel the entire time. The salary argument - it can never be perfect. As the industry changes constantly - we hope the regionals will adjust. From a guy already on the inside at Lynx- - I want to get accurate info out there to the people who are interested. Like any big decisions - get as much info as you can and weigh the pros and cons. Post any questions you may have - will do my best to give you a real solid answer. As with any forum - the info out there is questionable. I feel the primary reason is to help your peers to follow the paths that fit each individual. Safe Travels! M.P. |
Thank You!
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any info on the application process....how long before you hear back?
Mins? |
Originally Posted by Skaz
(Post 202267)
any info on the application process....how long before you hear back?
Mins? Thus far they try to conduct 2 interview sessions per week. If you apply - be sure to attach your cover letter and resume - it makes it easier to process I am told. You know how these automated systems 'shred' your formatting! |
I interviewed with Lynx back in February and never heard even a yes or no from them. Four others that interviewed with them that day never heard from them either. 1st year pay was also pretty low for captains considering the equipment. Personally, I was not to immpressed with the operation.
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Awesome news, definately interested here! Any idea if or when the mins might come down for FO's? Currently finishing up my final (CFII) rating, so I hope to start logging hours in a few weeks. Hope to be in the 1k flying hr range with half that in multi time by March. Thanks for the info! Best of luck
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Originally Posted by Canyonair
(Post 202483)
I interviewed with Lynx back in February and never heard even a yes or no from them. Four others that interviewed with them that day never heard from them either. 1st year pay was also pretty low for captains considering the equipment. Personally, I was not to immpressed with the operation.
Pilots that are interviewed will hear results within 7-10 days or sooner. Due to the amount of resumes/letters received, I am told that there is no followup other than an interview invitation. So resubmit / update every 120 days. |
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Lynx Aviation (Frontier Jet Express)
CA $50/Hr FO $21/Hr Based Denver, CO Q400 Aircraft About Lynx: Lynx Aviation, is a “whole new animal!” Lynx Aviation will start servicing the smaller airports this coming summer! Lynx Aviation is a subsidiary of Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. is the parent company of Denver-based Frontier Airlines. The animals on our tails aren't just decorations. They are reminders of what sets us apart. Each animal is unique, just as each of us is a unique individual. Together, they represent our character, our warmth, our friendliness. They set the expectation of a better experience for our customers and ourselves. The actions we each take fulfill that promise. And that's what truly makes Frontier "a whole different animal." Captain Mins: • 4000 hours total preferred • 1500 hours multi-engine • 2500 hours pilot in command (PIC) • 1500 hours jet/turbo-prop • Current FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate • Vision corrected to 20/20 • ATP Certificate • FCC Restricted Radio Operator’s Permit • Valid Passport, with machine readable print, and the ability to travel in and out of the United States • Authorization to work in the United States • Ability to travel in and out of the U.S. to all cities/countries served by Lynx Aviation • Ability to relocate • Ability and willingness to work weekends, nights, holidays and overnight trips • Ability and desire to demonstrate Lynx Aviation’s values of Safety, Respect, Trust, Collaboration, Value and Passion • Ability and desire to maintain a well groomed and professional appearance • Ability to pass pre-employment drug testing and background checks • Experience with sophisticated aircraft equipment including Electronic Flight Instrument Systems (EFIS) and Flight Management Systems (FMS) preferred First Officer Mins: • 1500 hours minimum. 2500 hours total preferred • 500 hours multi-engine minimum. 1000 hours preferred. • 500 hours pilot in command (PIC) • 500 hours jet/turbo-prop • Current FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate • Vision corrected to 20/20 • Commercial / MEL Certificate minimum. ATP-MEL preferred • FCC Restricted Radio Operator’s Permit • Valid Passport, with machine readable print, and the ability to travel in and out of the United States • Authorization to work in the United States • Ability to travel in and out of the U.S. to all cities/countries served by Lynx Aviation • Ability to relocate • Ability and willingness to work weekends, nights, holidays and overnight trips • Ability and desire to demonstrate Lynx Aviation’s values of Safety, Respect, Trust, Collaboration, Value and Passion • Ability and desire to maintain a well groomed and professional appearance • Ability to pass pre-employment drug testing and background checks • Experience with sophisticated aircraft equipment including Electronic Flight Instrument Systems (EFIS) and Flight Management Systems (FMS) preferred |
Horizon Q400:
CA 65/67/69/71 FO 29/39/40/41 -Must hold current class FAA Medical Certificate -High school diploma or equivalent -FAA Commercial Pilot’s Certificate with multi-engine and instrument ratings -Minimum 1,000 hours of total flight time, with a minimum of 60 hours flown in last six months -Minimum 100 hours multi-engine -Minimum age of 18 Just so you can compare. Good Luck |
High mins for F/O's I think that will have to change, after all Colgan wil lbe flying that same type of equiptment and their F/O's are low low low low time, I will say its impressive that they are typing the F/O's of the bat, thats nice.........
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FO's typed as SIC is requirement for ICAO flying (read Canada) BFD
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3@**!k__ @)
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Whats the chances of s decent paygrade for the continuing years? The first year pay may be low because its a startup, but it is disconcerting to think that that might be setting a precedent.
No flowthrough either? Been hearing rumours of being 'not-as preferred' if you want to apply at Frontier later after having worked for Lynx? Sigh...there bursts another bubble:( |
like the mins, although i don't know if they'll be able to put enough butts in the seats...but if they take it slow, they might find enough people willing to do it...But w/ minimums that high, i'd expect a slightly higher first year pay to really be "competitive"
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I bet the flying will be awesome in the Rockies. Good experience
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Any startup is a risky career move for anybody with some time...I'd expect only low-timers to take the chance (aside from street-captains, of course). Those min's will have to be lowered. My best guess is that those are just "published" and actual hiring will be at more realistic numbers...
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actually, i'd kinda wonder if a lot of initials would be looking at Lynx. startup operations typically attract higher time pilots who are looking to get in on the ground floor of a company, establish some good senority and achieve a decent schedule...but i guess i'd see that more w/ say Compass (which seems more like it's in an identity crisis between a regional and a jetblue) but who knows, maybe it'd work here as well.
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Just wanted to let everyone know about my experience with Lynx.
Because I live in Denver and prefer not to commute, I decided to submit a resume through one of the sources mentioned earlier. I was contacted within a week, interviewed the following week, and offered a job within the timeline also mentioned in a previous post. Everyone I met at Lynx was nice, enthusiastic, professional and generally made the experience enjoyable. Some of the staff come from Frontier, a company with good morale (at least from the point of view of the pilots I know). So it stands to reason that the company culture of Lynx would be similar to Frontier. Other pilots who interviewed had a decent amount of time and experience, it might be a QOL choice for these applicant who had prior 121 experience. The pay issue was addressed, with so many items to be acomplished to get the company operational, it will be evaluated in time. As for the rumors, I accepted the job and don't have a crystal ball telling me the future. The Frontier pilots I know have not expressed to me any concern about Lynx, only optimism, so I'm not sure where the rumors started. I think Lynx is a good bet. |
Originally Posted by APM145
(Post 205046)
Lynx Aviation (Frontier Jet Express)
CA $50/Hr FO $21/Hr Not sure Frontier/Lynx is the place to be. . . . 1)CEO resigning, 2)shortfall on earnings, 3)competition fierce with UAL and SWA. 4)slowing growth on the A319 side. 5)few markets to expand into that they can gain a competitive advantage 6)potential takeover candidate 7)without Frontier Lynx doesn't exist |
Is it looking like the 10 options will be exercised or is that still up in the air?
Checko |
Lynx has been shot down several times by the FAA as far as getting their certificate, I believe they just announced they do not have an estimated time of when they will begin service with the Q400s, Republic and Horizon will now begin flying under the name Lynx name until they can get things sorted out.
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Has anyone gone through training?
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Originally Posted by Airborne
Republic and Horizon will now begin flying under the name Lynx name until they can get things sorted out.
RW and QX will fly previously announced Lynx routes under their current Frontier Jet Express moniker... |
Initial Company Timelines Pushed Back While Lynx Continues to Move Forward with Certification Process
DENVER, Sept. 4 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Frontier Airlines Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ: FRNT) subsidiary, Lynx Aviation, today reported a delay in its initially forecasted timeline for completion of certification. The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) requires a new airline to achieve certification before it can begin flying commercially. Lynx initially expected certification prior to its published launch date of October 1, 2007. "While we are certainly frustrated with the lack of timeliness in the certification process, we are very pleased with the progress we have made building this company and preparing for the future," said Tom Nunn, President of Lynx Aviation. "The employees of Lynx have worked tirelessly to ensure the success of this airline and we will continue to do all we can to meet and exceed the FAA's milestones and requirements so that we can begin flying as soon as possible." While Lynx did establish that its Q400 aircraft will not be able to service Frontier's scheduled flights for Wichita, Rapid City, Sioux City, Albuquerque and Billings, Frontier customers will not be disrupted during this delay. Frontier will service those routes via existing E170 and CRJ-700 aircraft from its partners Republic Airways and Horizon Air, as well as with supplemental mainline Airbus service as needed. Frontier estimates that its total Lynx pre-operating expenses in the December quarter will be approximately $8 million. |
Originally Posted by Airborne
(Post 226024)
Lynx has been shot down several times by the FAA as far as getting their certificate, I believe they just announced they do not have an estimated time of when they will begin service with the Q400s, Republic and Horizon will now begin flying under the name Lynx name until they can get things sorted out.
Lynx is in phase 2 of 3 in the certification process. Manual review takes the longest to go through. The Lynx team has met all deadlines and we are currently awaiting the FAA's response and comments before we are able to move on to the next step. There is no "shooting" down concept! The final phase is proving runs which typically takes 2 weeks or so. There have been delays along the way- Bombardier's late deliveries & FAA timeline for processing are the major ones. To start up a new airline from scratch takes a little time. There is a new standard the FAA uses to certify new airlines and it is my observation that it seems both sides of the table are learning these new ropes. (check out how long Virgin took!) As a backup plan, Frontier Jet Express (Republic or Horizon) will fill in for Lynx just incase the certification process extends the October 1st planned launch date. The pilot classes have been full and the 8th class just arrived in Toronto to begin systems/sim training. Right at 60 pilots thus far have been hired with a goal of 100 by the end of the year. The annoucement of the optional aircraft will be determined in the next week or so. We have two new Q400s at Jeffco Airport (close to the Lynx office...http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...cons/icon7.gif ) and most of the inital cadre pilots have been keeping current in the aircraft. So to summarize, the company's focus is to obtain the certification and start operations. Pilots and other important crews are training and will be ready when given the final green light. 5 crews/plane is the staffing plan and should the options be taken... that means 100 more pilots! If you are interested in applying... email your attached coverletter/resume to [email protected] -M.P. |
Why is Lynx keeping the planes at Jeffco instead of DEN?
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 226228)
Why is Lynx keeping the planes at Jeffco instead of DEN?
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 226228)
Why is Lynx keeping the planes at Jeffco instead of DEN?
-M.P. |
I have a friend who flies corporate into and out of Jeffco Airport, and the rumor he heard is that Lynx (Frontier) actually wants to build a maintenance base there if the airport lets them, I assume it's a heck of a lot cheaper than DEN.
On another note, the starting wages are too low for this type of aircraft. I would HAVE TO BELIEVE that Lynx is going to raise hourly rates once they are generating revenue, if not, I can guarantee pilots will walk. |
Ellen, I you are right, it'll be tough to keep people around if they wages stay low. IMO, The wages should be higher year two and beyond.
The only thing that is fueling the low wages debate is the fact that there is no pay scale at this time. OTOH, the starting wage is better than at SkyWest ($19), which is held up as one of the best places to be right now. |
From what I hear, Lynx's president got in a ****ing match with their POI at DEN FSDO. Bad person to cross, he's the same one who shot down Key Lime's 121 op a few years back (not that Key Lime didn't deserve it).
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Lynx Update
It's been a little while since my last post... so here is the latest from the inside at Lynx: We have been busy finalizing the 'phase 2' portion and we will start flying our new planes next Monday in preparation for proving run practice. We are taking delivery of 4 more planes this month (total of 6 thus far) while the remaining 4 continue to be built. It looks like the proving runs will begin the first week of Nov (possibly earlier) and certification a couple weeks after. Hopefully just in time for Thanksgiving! We still retain all 10 options with plans to exercise them in 2008.
As far as pilots go - Lynx is still hiring CAs and FOs. Just hired #63 total pilots with 10 more starting on Oct 15. 100+ pilots needed for the 10 aircraft. Those of you that are interested- please email your resume to [email protected] . They are conducting interviews this week and next. The classes should slow down in Nov for holidays and available sim time. Get your resume in if you are on the fence. Come see what Lynx has to offer for you. My experience here has been impressive. The management knows you by name- The staff here is collectively dedicated to making this airline work and building a great place to call home. I have enjoyed working with everyone and the atmosphere is a positive one - despite the setback and delays that are out of their control. We continue to bring on talented and experienced people that add their expertise where needed without hesitation >> I can only see the upcoming flame response about the pay... so let me say that YES it is below industry... and YES it will be addressed soon. All focus is to get certified and start bringing IN money otherwise... We feel confident that our situation is appreciated by management. I bet that when Frontier relaunched in the early 90s - they had the similar concerns then... but now look at the pilot group! You gotta start somewhere. I believe the underlining nature of these forums is to help our peers... and not just complain and throw rocks. (fun at times though!) As with any career decisions - do gather as much info and find what suites your situation. Best of luck to all - as the industry has come a long way since 2001. ~ M.P. |
Originally Posted by Wildlife L4
(Post 244920)
I can only see the upcoming flame response about the pay... so let me say that YES it is below industry... and YES it will be addressed soon.
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Double post.
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Watch out...that email link may go bye bye like the other one you posted. BTW, thanks for the info MP.
Like he said, if you are on the fence, send your resume in. They do a great job giving you the lowdown on the company during the interview. They are as much interested in making sure Lynx fits you as you fitting the company. Its much better than trying to string things together on the internet. Checko |
What will be the initial routes from Denver? How many projected routes will there be by the end of next year - 10-20 routes?
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 245016)
What will be the initial routes from Denver? How many projected routes will there be by the end of next year - 10-20 routes?
Thus far - routes to Billings, MT; Wichita,KS; Rapid City, SD; & Sioux City,Iowa. I did read about flights to Albuquerque, Tulsa, and OKC very soon. Once certification is complete-- we expect around 22 city destinations shortly. Also, we have "seasonal bins" for the interior of the aircraft for skis/boots/etc. We will remove 4 seats from the rear of the plane for this carrier... so any guesses on where we will be going?! ;) As you know, it is easier to add on 'special airports' after initial certification...rather than all at once! ~M.P. |
hey, its been several months since the last update.... any more info on lynx? Are there mins hard? or is there room? Im a little low on the multi time, but i am interested in flying for lynx. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by TheGreatChecko
(Post 231164)
Ellen, I you are right, it'll be tough to keep people around if they wages stay low. IMO, The wages should be higher year two and beyond.
The only thing that is fueling the low wages debate is the fact that there is no pay scale at this time. OTOH, the starting wage is better than at SkyWest ($19), which is held up as one of the best places to be right now. |
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