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Timmay 07-23-2007 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 200912)
Assuming you need 85 hours of ME...

$165/hour x 85 = $14,025

Divide by two (safety pilot) = $7,012

I used to work at mesa...and I'd pay $7K not to have to go back.

I used that same exact logic when the Army NG was trying to get me to reenlist. When they started throw re-up bonuses at me, I told them I'd pay more than that to not have to deal with them anymore.

bertramcheeks22 07-23-2007 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 200912)
Assuming you need 85 hours of ME...

$165/hour x 85 = $14,025

Divide by two (safety pilot) = $7,012

I used to work at mesa...and I'd pay $7K not to have to go back.

Well you gotta consider that some people frown upon that whole safety pilot stuff...

blastboy 07-23-2007 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by btwissel (Post 200860)
heck, TSA would be a better choice than Mesa. at least you have block or better, and crew scheduling is slightly less evil.

Ooops. Forgot about them. :D They're hiring with 250/25 from what I remember. Better than Mesa!


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 200880)
I don't think going to Mesa for a short time would be "undercutting" everybody else...think of all that money and time they'll be spending on him to get almost zero return ;-)

LOL Isn't Mesa also known as the IOE for other airlines? :D

SharkAir 07-23-2007 07:03 PM

Or "(insert airline here) Pilot Development"

flynavyj 07-23-2007 07:09 PM

TSA is the CFI grad school for chautauqua...but hey, we're not mesa...life over here honestly isn't that bad, even the guys who left here for CHQ or EXJ didn't really look at Trans States as being all that bad...except for a couple, and they had good reason...if the company creates an alter ego to screw us and our alter ego however...well,

rickair7777 07-23-2007 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22 (Post 200919)
Well you gotta consider that some people frown upon that whole safety pilot stuff...


That might have been true in the past, but I know of no regional that would not count SP time today. MEI time would be better time (I have tons of it) but it may not make sense to spend years pursuing that right now.

trunk junk 07-23-2007 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by APM145 (Post 200832)
You will be basically undercutting your own future at a "good" airline. How can the pilots at ExpressJet expect to maintain that "good" contract when there are pilots willing to put up with anything, in the short term, to get on with, well, ExpressJet.
Paul

Thats the whole regional airline industry today. The "regionals" like skywest, expressjet, mesa ect... are not feeders from small town to large hubs, sure they do pleanty of that too but the real growth has been from outsourcing for major airlines. They fly major airline routes in the middle of the day. They are small jet providers exactly what the boyd group calls them. So you guys think that mesa is screwing you guys, the majors think you are screwing them, everybody thinks skybus is screwing everybody. Its all one big cycle of mutual backstabing for guys that want to get paid to fly. So go ahead and point the finger at mesa but there is someone pointing at you too.

Blkflyer 07-23-2007 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by trunk junk (Post 200963)
Thats the whole regional airline industry today. The "regionals" like skywest, expressjet, mesa ect... are not feeders from small town to large hubs, sure they do pleanty of that too but the real growth has been from outsourcing for major airlines. They fly major airline routes in the middle of the day. They are small jet providers exactly what the boyd group calls them. So you guys think that mesa is screwing you guys, the majors think you are screwing them, everybody thinks skybus is screwing everybody. Its all one big cycle of mutual backstabing for guys that want to get paid to fly. So go ahead and point the finger at mesa but there is someone pointing at you too.

With that said who did Comair and ASA screw, not being fecious but want to know..

trunk junk 07-23-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 200969)
With that said who did Comair and ASA screw, not being fecious but want to know..

Im just making a generalization about one of the main themes running through the APC forums. Its true isnt it? There are the southwest haters thinking that southwest destroyed thier company and has brought things down and those giving themselves indigestion over skybus. Those that think skywest is keeping things down by not going union......I could go on but you know how it is. Im not saying I like mesa or there arent victims of the industry just that people seem to like to blame others at other airlines for why they dont have it better.

SharkAir 07-23-2007 08:05 PM

That's why it's every man for himself. I'm looking out for number 1. And maybe my family.

I fully expect everybody else to do the same.


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